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Old 04-15-2008, 10:31 AM
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Personally, I am ashamed to live in the same country that some of these opinions are coming from.
don't be, there are all kinds of people all over the world. everyone should be allowed to talk about what he thinks. that's the very basis of the civilized negotiating way.

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I deeply apologize for any offensive language that has been directed at you because of stereotypes that are fed by Fox News. These opinions are not representative of all Americans.
thanks. I've found many friends here among Americans. some of them don't agree with me on some issues, but that's not a problem for me. still I have only one officially declared enemy on this forum, that I haven't declared enmity on him, but he said I'm his enemy. (you know who!)
love the ones who hate you the most. that's what jesus says. I think I agree with him.

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Please tell us your opinions from your point of views and hopefully, some of us will take this opportunity to learn something. Why do you think that people have used your religion to promote violence?
look at eleanor's signature. that's exactly what terrorists understand of qur'an. (ignoring wrong translations) they're out of context, and wrong. that's not what islam is about. do you think if they didn't have islam, they wouldn't do what they're doing now? bad people are bad people. they don't understand boundaries, they're radical. they killed 12 in shiraz recently. that's whatthey are.

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What to most people in Iran think about America and the West?
iranians look at america in two ways. about 30% see it as an enemy that took shah's side in mossadegh's overthrown and '79s revolution. even tried to overthrow iran's new regime after the revolution. they hate america. about 30% are under great influence of american culture and agree with it. they like usa. the other 40% don't trust america, but support the idea to negotiate and solve the problems. I'm in this 40%.

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What do you think is the best way to resolve our differences?
negotiation. exchanging ideas. we should have more connections to understand each other. (you understand me, I understand you, that's because we're talking!)
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:34 AM
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Perham. I have a question. New Crusades - Should Christianity Be Destroyed?
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Perham. I have a question. New Crusades - Should Christianity Be Destroyed?
surely no. Christianity is a religion of God, just like Islam.
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surely no. Christianity is a religion of God, just like Islam.
lol What no جهاد on Christians?
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:23 AM
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lol What no جهاد on Christians?
jahad is against the enemies of the islam and muslims, in some particular situations, like when they attack your country or so. why should I want to?! LOL
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Surely you can't destroy a religious as you can't destroy an idea - once it has been created it exists in human minds.

But Islamic extreamists should be fought against until they are destroyed - because they have decalared war on the West and our way of life and our freedom to choose.
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Surely you can't destroy a religious as you can't destroy an idea - once it has been created it exists in human minds.

But Islamic extreamists should be fought against until they are destroyed - because they have decalared war on the West and our way of life and our freedom to choose.
Religious extremists of ANY kind should be fought against.

Just seems to be that Islam has the majority right now.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:37 AM
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jahad is against the enemies of the islam and muslims, in some particular situations, like when they attack your country or so. why should I want to?! LOL
lol Well, Bush still has some time left.

We're being watched by the CIA now you brought up Jahad.
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Surely you can't destroy a religious as you can't destroy an idea - once it has been created it exists in human minds.

But Islamic extreamists should be fought against until they are destroyed - because they have decalared war on the West and our way of life and our freedom to choose.
I love it when people contradict themselves like this. Extremism IS an idea. It will always be a part of society.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:58 AM
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I love it when people contradict themselves like this. Extremism IS an idea. It will always be a part of society.
agreed, but it can become inactive, like what Nazism has became today.
I don't know why everybody forgets about jew extremists. they are as active as muslims, just the news is not on the media.
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