We don't hear about Jew extremists here at all.

LOL, this was my point all along. islam is better suited to the middle ages than the 21st century. Its a backward, evil, repressive, totalitarian ideology sicker than any other ideology in the history of mankind. Christianity has also been a sick ideology at times, depending on how Jesus was mistranslated, but thats long past and irrelevant to the current war on islamofascism. Further, it isn't the mistranslations or misinterpretations at fault for the evil of islam, but the very example their "perfect" madman set. It was a conquering, thieving, raping, murdering, madman they consider to be the perfect man and anyone who claims it is a mistranslation to then take muhammed's advice or "extremist" is simply lost in space. The "extremists" muslims quote their unholy prophet and unholy texts correctly when they use it to justify their unholy actions.

Its evil through and through.

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

Plenty of violence and such in the Bible too you know...

That said, Islam right now IS in the Middle Ages. With education and time, it will dig itself out, but that takes a bit of hindsight to understand, especially since Christianity and other religions had the same initial beginnings.

If you want to criticise Islam that's all well and good, and well within your rights to do -- just know that you're in a minority, and I'd rather work on getting Muslims worldwide educated, knowing history, and NOT repeating it to understand that extremism is not a worthwhile goal, and doesn't accomplish anything than repression, especially on a global stage. But if you want to finger point, call names of a people's faith, especially when a lot of them are entirely peaceful and good people -- then it is you who plays the part of a bigot and nothing more.

And I'm saying this, as an agnostic. Jeez.

This still remains, and always will be, your opinion - nothing more.

It is not bigoted to condemn an evil ideology, its moral clarity. islam was founded by an utterly evil man who wrote totally evil words who evil people have been following for centuries to do evil things. It is simply illogical to suddenly declare this evil, violent ideology peaceful simply because you consider it politically correct, which is what you are really doing.

Its nonsense to suggest we should simply tolerate evil because something else was once evil and now isn't. islamofascism must be defeated, forced to abandon its evil ways in order for it to be compatible with the modern world. This is simple truth that will increasingly be exposed to all as this war of civilization versus islamobarbarism continues to escalate (as they breed and emigrate like cockroaches).

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

So what of Muslims who practice peacefully, and are good people?

They obviously have a different interpretation than what you are purporting, so obviously there is some room for discussion. If it was entirely true in what you were saying, then Muslims would be en masse violent and almost all of them evil. But the fact is, they are not.

You are painting them with a broad brush. And that's because you have a preconceived notion (your signature tells me that) about their religion. It is a backwards religion in many ways but honestly -- which religion isn't? Right now they are the most backward because they live in squalor. They are uneducated, underfed, without jobs, and without futures. Religion is a salvation they will place a lot of hope in, because their immediate life doesn't have the value yours and mine does.

If you replaced all the Muslims in the world with Christians, and that you were switched as well (if you are Christian now, you'd be Muslim and raised as one), then your signature would hold the quotes of the Bible how it is offensive, violent, and preaches evil and violence.

And I'm always entertained by the "Islamo" - insert adjective words. They are very tired and repetitive, and usually don't have any information whatsoever, but try to push a certain viewpoint on an audience, with minimal understanding and maximum exposure on the negative connotation of the word. Fun word games -- all crafted by speechwriters and focus groups and tireless hours to figure out how to push a message.

Anyway, if you want to defeat "islamofacism" then you should be more open to pushing education, technology, history, science on those people. Not keeping them repressed, as you seem to have no issue with. Just think of all the brilliant minds that were active during the Crusades before the British and French started to break apart all the empires and install selective dictatorships around the globe (where they found oil). You know, the same minds that came up with mathematics we use today, the ones that came up with medicinal achievements, or surgical ones (cataract surgery was a big one at the time, still is). Imagine if we could help those minds come to fruition yet again. That would involve of course, taking away the power the dictatorships have, it would mean a steadily increasing price of oil, and less control on how the oil market would function but hey... then we'd defeat "islamofacism", terrorism, and all the other bad things you think about Islam as a whole. They would be equivalent to Christians, Jews, or anybody else -- with a focus on their future, their money, their jobs, their families.

But mostly, I think people aren't willing to pay that $8.00 a gallon for that benefit. That's why we use words like "islamofacist", just to paint a brush on a people, get what we want, and not really care about the entire picture other than cheap gasoline.

If they aren't fighting the mainstream violent nature of islam (which none of them are doing adequately), then they are part of the problem. Lots of nazis didn't ever fight, but that doesn't mean they didn't support naziism in other ways.

You admit most of the truth, that muslims are uneducated, religious fanatics whose ideology is based on that of a raping, thieving, murdering conquerer they even now consider "perfect." The rest is just wishful thinking, the way you wish islam was or hope it will be someday if you kiss their butts enough.

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

Tell me then, who fought the backward ideology that was around in the Middle Ages for Christianity?

NOBODY. It was an evolution over time. People realized that they weren't going to get what they wanted in life by going to religion every time, and started to be more secular and work together to get what they wanted.

The idea that peaceful and good Muslims should be out there fighting the violent sides of their religion is silly. You put it on them, when it is in fact our own greed for cheap gasoline that keeps them where they are. As soon as gasoline is a non-issue, and we have no desire for anything in the Middle East, you will see people rise up and democratize themselves, even in small parts. It won't be an overnight success -- I imagine that the beginnings will be very religious, and over time transform into a reasonable democracy.

As far as their "perfect" leader -- Muslims who are peaceful have a different vision of Muhammad than you do. So again, you're painting them all with a broad brush in order to purport them bad as a whole, the entire religion being 'evil'. But frankly, you do a poor job at it because you can't back up anything without taking a few quotes and throwing them around like they are the entire story, when lots of Muslims worldwide would not ever do anything in that manner.

Your method has been tried, and it has failed, time and time again -- not just for Islam, but for Christianity, for Judiasm. But it's entertaining you are taking to the same exact method that Hitler used to start painting Jews with a broad brush -- just before he started murdering millions of them. Your views are that of the same, a sad and bigoted point of view on a religion you have little comprehension beyond a few websites and quotes, and little experience with the people as a whole.

I don't think Islam is a "peaceful" religion in the same way I don't think Christianity is, or Judaism. It's in the view of the person practicing to make it peaceful or not. Religion is meant to be interpreted for an individual's power over another person through the supernatural or "imaginary friends." All religions are guilty of this. Just because Muslims in the world happen to be less educated, and thus easier to pray on for that -- doesn't make the religion as a whole inherently bad, because with the right interpretation, it can be very peaceful too. It's all about perspective.

Thats just flat nonsense. It is historical fact that muhammed, who islam considers to be perfect, was a cold blooded murderer who spent his life conquering poor people who knew well enough to stay away from his evil ideology.

This is not a perspective. Its fact, as is the numerous groups of muslims all over the world proudly acting on his example and directives.

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

I hate when people dig back hundreds of years and site violence from the bible to explain away the hell on earth that is the middle east.