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You're pretty 'moderate', but still support Sharia Law. You can't reform what Mohammed laid in Stone. http://www.Time.com/time/world/artic...185647,00.html "....Part of the problem dates to Muhammad. Even as he proclaimed new rights for women, he enshrined their inequality in immutable law, passed down as God's commandments and eventually recorded in scripture. The Koran allots daughters Half the inheritance of sons. It decrees that a woman's testimony in court, at least in financial matters, is worth Half that of a man's. Under Shari'a, or Muslim law, compensation for the murder of a woman is Half the going rate for men. In many Muslim countries, these directives are incorporated into contemporary law. For a woman to prove rape in Pakistan, for example, 4 male adult males of "impeccable" character must witness the penetration, in accordance with Shari'a. Family law in Islamic countries generally follows the prescriptions of scripture. This is so even in a country like Egypt, where much of the legal code has been secularized. In Islam, women can have only one spouse, while men are permitted 4. The legal age for girls to marry tends to be very young. Muhammad's favorite wife, A'isha, according to her biographer, was six when they wed, nine when the marriage was consummated. In Iran the legal age for marriage is 9 for girls, 14 for boys. The law has occasionally been exploited by pedophiles, who marry poor young girls from the provinces, use and then abandon them. In 2000 the Iranian Parliament voted to raise the minimum age for girls to 14, but this year, a legislative oversight body dominated by traditional clerics vetoed the move. An attempt by conservatives to abolish Yemen's legal minimum age of 15 for girls failed, but local experts say it is rarely enforced anyway. (The onset of puberty is considered an appropriate time for a marriage to be consummated.) Wives in Islamic societies face great difficulty in suing for divorce, but husbands can be released from their vows virtually on demand, in some places merely by saying "I divorce you" three times...." Link above Gonna Re-write the Koran?
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This is the Logic Dichotomy/Quandary that 'moderate' Muslims face. They MUST defer to the more Pious. He can't really 'reform the Koran' and can't say so.
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were not in the middle ages anymore.. i thought we learned about persecution already. but i guess old saying holds true.. if you dont learn from the past, youre doomed to repeat it.
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Perham seemed to me to be open to communication and understanding instead of accusing and arguing in those last few posts.
I am not anti muslim. I think Islam is wrong not those who follow it. In fact one of the things I pray the most for is forgiveness to those who follow Islam because I see them as lost sheep who try to worship God but are taught the wrong path.
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The problem with the idea of reforming the quran, besides the usual nonsense that it doesn't need reform, is that reform implies there was something good to start with, something to build upon, some good intentions buried among bad policy. But, this isn't the case here. It was founded by an evil, thieving, torturing, murdering, raping, religious cult fanatic who spent his life conuqering people to extend his power and everything islam is results from that origin. It is true among the many things muhammed said for himself, he mentioned afew things that sort of sound reasonable, but the vast majority is clearly 100% evil.
Reforming islam means disowning muhammed and the quran. Once they do that, they can call themselves whatever they want.
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He can indeed believe or not .. but he can't reform the Koran- or what Mohammed said. Unlike other religions, there is and has been no 'reformation' (and no NKJV of the Koran), unless you call the even more Literal Wahabism THAT movement. Tiring to see yet another mindless PC liberal chirping in with what he knows not.
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