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Wasn't a Custer a Muslim as well? Maybe... or General Sherman? All those Muslims , killing those people in Atlanta... its horrible, what they do, isn't it? Muslims sending all those indians to Oklahoma on the trail of tears - oh wait, that was a US President...

I fail to see what this has to do with Islam
Custer - I believe he got what was coming to him
Shrema - There was a little thing called the civil war going on, or maybe you would have liked it better is the confereracy seceeded and there was still slavery.
Trail of tears - Hey I'm native american and I got over it, think you can.
Stalin - Communist lunatic
Mao - Communist lunatic
Hitler - Socialist occult driven lunatic

Not seeing where these guys were reading the Bible or the Torah and carring out what it said. Especially since communist don't have religion
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The moderates make up the majority.
Please prove it. I see lots of evidence to suggest support for islamic terrorism runs very deep. Heck, even our own democrats are swallowing it up now. Their support is stronger for our enemies than for our administration.

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If there really are moderates, please explain how it even matters in strategic terms. How do we tell the moderates from the extremists? They seem to all call themselves the same name, muslims, and quote the same instruction books, the quran, and all call muhammed the child raping freak of a madman conquerer perfect. So, what exactly defines a muslim as being moderate or not? Is it that they are a moderate until they have killed and then they get promoted to being a full fledged islamotard? If they are so moderate, why don't they fight the extremists themselves and prevent us from having to do it?
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Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

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My point is that you can't group all Muslims into one group - there are moderate and there are extremists. The moderates make up the majority. The extremists just make more noise.
Ok so there are what about 1.2 billion muslims in the world, even if only 1% is considered extremest thats 12 million of them. That more people than live in chicago
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Please prove it. I see lots of evidence to suggest support for islamic terrorism runs very deep. Heck, even our own democrats are swallowing it up now. Their support is stronger for our enemies than for our administration.

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If there really are moderates, please explain how it even matters in strategic terms. How do we tell the moderates from the extremists? They seem to all call themselves the same name, muslims, and quote the same instruction books, the quran, and all call muhammed the child raping freak of a madman conquerer perfect. So, what exactly defines a muslim as being moderate or not? Is it that they are a moderate until they have killed and then they get promoted to being a full fledged islamotard? If they are so moderate, why don't they fight the extremists themselves and prevent us from having to do it?
You've got a LOT of hate in you haven't you? Doesn't make for a happy or healthy life my friend.

The moderate Muslims, by the way, don't appear on the news, why would they? And there's over a billion of them.
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You've got a LOT of hate in you haven't you? Doesn't make for a happy or healthy life my friend.

The moderate Muslims, by the way, don't appear on the news, why would they? And there's over a billion of them.
I think the point is that what are the moderate muslims doing to put an end to terrorism? It appears to be nothing, by what all you are saying they have far superior numbers. Why aren't they doing something about it if it makes their religion look bad? Maybe they prefer a terrorist/extremist over an infidel?
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I think the point is that what are the moderate muslims doing to put an end to terrorism? It appears to be nothing, by what all you are saying they have far superior numbers. Why aren't they doing something about it if it makes their religion look bad? Maybe they prefer a terrorist/extremist over an infidel?
They're doing the same as all the Americans who witness a crime and do nothing about it. They're scared, and quite frankly, we haven't exactly endeared ourself to them over the years, not to mention many of them live in countries where the government feeds them blatant propaganda. What do you want them to do? Rise up? I think you know it's not that easy for most people, whatever religion you are.
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They're doing the same as all the Americans who witness a crime and do nothing about it. They're scared, and quite frankly, we haven't exactly endeared ourself to them over the years, not to mention many of them live in countries where the government feeds them blatant propaganda. What do you want them to do? Rise up? I think you know it's not that easy for most people, whatever religion you are.
Perhaps or they think what they are doing is correct, There was a picture I wish I could find or a guy after the tsunami getting aid from Americans wearing a tshirt with a picture of bin laden on it.
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Perhaps or they think what they are doing is correct, There was a picture I wish I could find or a guy after the tsunami getting aid from Americans wearing a tshirt with a picture of bin laden on it.
Excellent point. I forgot, and you reminded me. They're very badly educated.

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Stupid (unpleasant word to use but keeping it simple) people think what they are doing is right, even when it's not.

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...is an blatant example of that. I don't like to look down on people unless they look down on me and I think they're smart enough to know better. But really, do you think that most of these people from these poor (except for the few who exploit the oil) countries in the middle east have a good education? 1 in 5 Americans can't even find the US on a map of the world, imagine what it's like in these countries.

And share the pic with me if you find it cos that is hilarious.
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It's genocide. I think you need to take some morality and ethics courses.
According to the Koran it isn't if done in the name of Allah.
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Ok so there are what about 1.2 billion muslims in the world, even if only 1% is considered extremest thats 12 million of them. That more people than live in chicago
I simply can't believe the 1% propaganda. It just doesn't ring true. If it was only 1% of muslims that interpreted, correctly, the quran and muhammed as ordering eternal global jihad to conquer the world, then they would not have the force they have. The muslim people would be turning them in and/or killing them and they would be isolated, broke, and alone. Instead, they seem to have enormous support in the political world and even seem to gaining ground in our own democratic government. We have a Presidential candidate whose 20+ year pastor/spiritual mentor and campaign adviser (until bad press) endorsed Hamas and we have a former democratic President making deals with them against the wishes of the USA and Her allies in the region.

If their sick ideology has infected our own "liberals" as it has, there is every reason it runs very, very, very deep in the muslim populations of the world. I am sure the islamonutjobs are extremely encouraged by the demoslamic party.
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