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Old 04-20-2008, 12:07 PM
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Could you give us the quote please?
What do you need a quote for? It is said and done over and over again.

How about Iran's leader saying they will extinguish all of the Jews from Palestine? That's genocide and not considered wrong there because the Jew's aren't Muslim.

Look at North Africa. Allah is commanding the Muslims to conquer for Islam there so it isnt genocide.

You know they are claimed to be some of the pigs and dogs of the world and as many Islamic Mullahs and terrorists say the world needs to be cleansed of the pigs and dogs. And when it is described that way a genocide is ruled out of the picture.
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Perhaps they do. A lot of Americans think that invading Iraq was correct, that torture is correct and that holding men without charge or trial at Guantanamo Bay is correct. Some even think that Islam is inherently evil and should be destroyed

You really can't overestimate exactly how stupid some people are.
Based on the Intel and 17 resolutions, and the fact that Iraq kept breaking the rules of the cease fire I would say yeah we had good reason. What people fail to understand is that this is not a new war it is a continuation of '91. It didn't end in a surrender, it ended in a cease fire. Same with Korea, why do you think we still have troops on the boreder of the North and South.

What do you consider torture? changing the temperature to make them uncomfortable, ifs thats the case I'm filing a complaint against mother nature.
Stress positions? Hell some people pay for that sort of thing.

Holding men without charge, hmmm seems they are illegal combatants since they don't wear unifroms, Terrorists are ot mentioned in the Geneva conventions, as a matter of fact in any other war they would have been executed immediatly as spies. So if you want to charge them with something there you go.

Read the Koran, make the decision for yourself.
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What do you need a quote for? It is said and done over and over again.

How about Iran's leader saying they will extinguish all of the Jews from Palestine? That's genocide and not considered wrong there because the Jew's aren't Muslim.

Look at North Africa. Allah is commanding the Muslims to conquer for Islam there so it isnt genocide.

You know they are claimed to be some of the pigs and dogs of the world and as many Islamic Mullahs and terrorists say the world needs to be cleansed of the pigs and dogs. And when it is described that way a genocide is ruled out of the picture.
So, no. You can't give me a quote. Just repeating the same old ignorant bigotry with no understanding at all of what you are saying.


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Hey! Did you know that all Christians think that the world should be cleansed of people from Sweden!!!!

It's true - some nutbag on the internet wrote about it and I'm too stupid to think for myself, so I believe him!!!!
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Based on the Intel and 17 resolutions, and the fact that Iraq kept breaking the rules of the cease fire I would say yeah we had good reason. What people fail to understand is that this is not a new war it is a continuation of '91. It didn't end in a surrender, it ended in a cease fire. Same with Korea, why do you think we still have troops on the boreder of the North and South.
There was no UN Resolution sanctioning the use of force in 2003

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What do you consider torture? changing the temperature to make them uncomfortable, ifs thats the case I'm filing a complaint against mother nature.
Stress positions? Hell some people pay for that sort of thing.
Torture, according to the United Nations Convention Against Torture, is "any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions
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Holding men without charge, hmmm seems they are illegal combatants since they don't wear unifroms, Terrorists are ot mentioned in the Geneva conventions, as a matter of fact in any other war they would have been executed immediatly as spies. So if you want to charge them with something there you go.
Article 5 of the Third Geneva Convention:
Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy, belong to any of the categories enumerated in Article 4, such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal.
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Read the Koran, make the decision for yourself.
I'm not the one making stupid accusations without having read it.
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I'm not the one making stupid accusations without having read it.
Are you claiming to have read the evil piece of trash called the quran?
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Based on the Intel and 17 resolutions, and the fact that Iraq kept breaking the rules of the cease fire I would say yeah we had good reason. What people fail to understand is that this is not a new war it is a continuation of '91. It didn't end in a surrender, it ended in a cease fire.
No wonder Bush Sr. didn't finish the job! He just put the war on hold so Dubya could assume war powers bordering on dictatorship.
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No wonder Bush Sr. didn't finish the job! He just put the war on hold so Dubya could assume war powers bordering on dictatorship.
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No wonder Bush Sr. didn't finish the job! He just put the war on hold so Dubya could assume war powers bordering on dictatorship.
Yeah I'm sure that was the plan, if Sr would have finished the job we wouldn't be back over there, and if the job isn't finished now, in another 10 years we'll be back over there.
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So, no. You can't give me a quote. Just repeating the same old ignorant bigotry with no understanding at all of what you are saying.
Bull! What I said is what makes you worthy of me linking a silly quote for you when you would probobly just call it falsehood or a rare comment while insulting me no matter what it said anyway?

I would do that for those who want to acutally chat or argue in an adult way instead of just saying "link please!" or "you Bigot!" like a 5 year old and now I'm glad I didn't cause it seems not worth my time.


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Hey! Did you know that all Christians think that the world should be cleansed of people from Sweden!!!!

It's true - some nutbag on the internet wrote about it and I'm too stupid to think for myself, so I believe him!!!!
http://www.godhatessweden.com/
Oh is this how Christians are now? Let me guess, many Bishops and Cardinals are now calling for death of the infidels and claiming how Christianity will conquer the unbelievers until it is only religion on the Earth. I'm sure the Pope must have said something about ridding the holy land of the Jewish pigs too right? I mean Bill Maher said he's a Nazi.
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