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Old 04-23-2008, 08:38 PM
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I wonder why conservatives in America oppose Muslims so much, both are far-right-wing, both have exactly the same views of homosexuality and social issues, both like theocracy. Iran and the conservatards in America are practically identical!
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muhammed was a terrorist, muslims all say muhammed is perfect, therefore islam=terrorism. Its really that simple.

islam must be utterly defeated. It would be better if it were utterly destroyed, but reformed into a peaceful religion would be acceptable.
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I wonder why conservatives in America oppose Muslims so much, both are far-right-wing, both have exactly the same views of homosexuality and social issues, both like theocracy. Iran and the conservatards in America are practically identical!
yeah its really ironic. but there is a difference.. muslims tend to much more idealistic about their views. also, we believe in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and equal rights under the law. good luck calling mohammed a rapist in saudi arabia. or saying that allah doesnt exist and its all a stupid idea to believe in islam.
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lol ironic that you should bring that up.
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lol ironic that you should bring that up.
lol yeah.

note: im not for destroying islam at all.
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Islam teaches followers to kill all non beleivers.
Prove it.
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Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

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Maybe you should read something like the below link or if you speak arabic then read the actual arabic. The thing about Arabic is that it changes so constantly that the wording of infidel and the part that says fight them etc... has been misinterpretted millions of times within the past 1300 years as has the concept of women having to "cover themselves". These and Jihad and other commonly misinterpretted words or phrases are due to the ambiguity of the writing of the Quran itself.
http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles...e_infidels.asp
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Maybe you should read something like the below link or if you speak arabic then read the actual arabic. The thing about Arabic is that it changes so constantly that the wording of infidel and the part that says fight them etc... has been misinterpretted millions of times within the past 1300 years as has the concept of women having to "cover themselves". These and Jihad and other commonly misinterpretted words or phrases are due to the ambiguity of the writing of the Quran itself.
http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles...e_infidels.asp
it doesnt matter what it really says. it matters what people believe it says. its kinda like the different sects of christianity having different views on what the bible says. its pretty clear that the radicals(and maybe some non-radicals) believe the common view of infidels.
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it doesnt matter what it really says. it matters what people believe it says. its kinda like the different sects of christianity having different views on what the bible says. its pretty clear that the radicals(and maybe some non-radicals) believe the common view of infidels.
Yea and because of the radicals (get this one) radical interpretation of the text, you shouldn't generalize that all muslims interpret the text in the same manner so as to be radical as well.
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