Something Rotten in Denmark?
by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard
New York Post 8/27/02

A Muslim group in Denmark announced a few days ago that a $30,000 bounty would be paid for the murder of several prominent Danish Jews, a threat that garnered wide international notice. Less well known is that this is just one problem associated with Denmark's approximately 200,000 Muslim immigrants. The key issue is that many of them show little desire to fit into their adopted country.

For years, Danes lauded multiculturalism and insisted they had no problem with the Muslim customs - until one day they found that they did. Some major issues:

* Living on the dole: Third-world immigrants - most of them Muslims from countries such as Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan, Lebanon and Iraq - constitute 5% of the population but consume upwards of 40% of the welfare spending.

* Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4% of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a Majority of the country's convicted Rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim. Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes.

* Self-imposed isolation: Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane.

* Importing unacceptable customs: Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem.

Another is threats to kill Muslims who convert out of Islam. One Kurdish convert to Christianity, who went public to explain why she had changed religion, felt the need to hide her face and conceal her identity, fearing for her life.

* Fomenting anti-Semitism: Muslim violence threatens Denmark's approximately 6,000 Jews, who increasingly depend on police protection. Jewish parents were told by one school principal that she could not guarantee their children's safety and were advised to attend another institution. Anti-Israel marches have turned into anti-Jewish riots. One organization, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, openly calls on Muslims to "kill all Jews . . . wherever you find them."

* Seeking Islamic law: Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim.

Other Europeans (such as the late Pim Fortuyn in Holland) have also grown alarmed about these issues, but Danes were the first to make them the basis for a change in government.

In a momentous election last November, a center-right coalition came to power that - for the first time since 1929 - excluded the socialists. The right broke its 72-year losing streak and won a solid parliamentary majority by promising to handle immigration issues, the electorate's first concern, differently from the socialists.

The next nine months did witness some fine-tuning of procedures: Immigrants now must live seven years in Denmark (rather than three) to become permanent residents. Most non-refugees no longer can collect welfare checks immediately on entering the country. No one can bring into the country an intended spouse under the age of 24. And the state prosecutor is considering a ban on Hizb-ut-Tahrir for its death threats against Jews.

These minor adjustments prompted howls internationally - with European and U.N. reports condemning Denmark for racism and "Islamophobia," the Washington Post reporting that Muslim immigrants "face habitual discrimination," and a London Guardian headline announcing that "Copenhagen Flirts with Fascism."

In reality, however, the new government barely addressed the existing problems. Nor did it prevent new ones, such as the death threats against Jews or a recent Islamic edict calling on Muslims to drive Danes out of the Norrebro quarter of Copenhagen.

The authorities remain indulgent. The military mulls permitting Muslim soldiers in Denmark's volunteer International Brigade to opt out of actions they don't agree with - a privilege granted to members of no other faith. Mohammed Omar Bakri, the self-proclaimed London-based "eyes, ears and mouth" of Osama bin Laden, won permission to set up a branch of his organization, Al-Muhajiroun.

Contrary to media reports, the real news from Denmark is not flirting with fascism but getting mired in inertia. A government elected specifically to deal with a set of problems has made minimal headway. Its reluctance has potentially profound implications for the West as a whole."

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Thank you for your quoted article, i.beletesri. Looking forward to some relevant comment from you.

Embarrassed at having your own country pointed to with an Islamo-Problem eh?

I've put up Tons of relevant comment in this string in my words and others

You haven't answered a word of it.

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We don't have an "Islamo-Problem". We have a problem with a few unadjusted young people from sad family backgrounds.
There is nothing to answer. Just because a few Christian fundies murdered some doctors performing abortions does not mean an all out war against all Christians should be launched. Same thing here.

9/11 was a one-time attack, not an ongoing "conflict." The "ongoing conflict" aspect is adequately represented by Iraq and Afghanistan.

So in other words, you won't provide me your criteria so I can apply it to the world's conflicts? Okay.

Good for you. I'm not discussing the Quran. I'm discussing whether Muslims are behind most of the world's conflicts.

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Man up.

LOL- another EU Leftist in denial

Dutch fear Muslim anger as anti-Koran film hits Web
Thu Mar 27, 2008

Emma Thomasson

AMSTERDAM, March 28 (Reuters) - The Netherlands government tried to defuse Muslim anger after the release of a film by a Dutch lawmaker that accuses the Koran of inciting violence and shows an image of the Prophet Mohammad primed to explode.

Islam critic Geert Wilders launched his movie on Thursday evening. Titled "Fitna", a Koranic term sometimes translated as "strife", it intersperses images of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and other Islamist bombings with quotations from the Koran.

The film warns that the rising number of Muslims in the Netherlands and the rest of Europe threatens democratic societies. It urges Muslims to tear out "hate-filled" verses from the Koran.

After the caption "The Netherlands in the future?" the film shows images of gay men being executed, children with bloody faces, a woman being stoned and genital mutilation.

It concludes with a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammad with a bomb under his turban, originally published in Danish newspapers, accompanied by the sound of ticking.

The Dutch government has distanced itself from Wilders' views, hoping to avert the kind of Muslim backlash Denmark suffered in 2006 over cartoons of Mohammad.

Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said he hoped there would not be a violent reaction to the film.

"We believe it serves no purpose other than to cause offence," Balkenende said. "But feeling offended should never be used as an excuse for aggression and threats."

He said the Netherlands was in contact with Muslim countries and Dutch exporters and that he was heartened by the initial restraint of Dutch Muslims.

PROTESTS

Before the film's release, demonstrators had already taken to the streets from Afghanistan to Indonesia to burn Dutch and Danish flags, and the governments of Pakistan and Iran sharply criticised the project.

NATO has expressed concern the film could worsen security for foreign forces in Afghanistan, including 1,650 Dutch troops.

Brahim Bourzik, a spokesman for a Dutch Moroccan group, said mosques would open their doors to the public on Friday in an effort to defuse tension.

A court in Rotterdam is due to hear an injunction against Wilders on Friday brought by the Dutch Islamic Federation. The politician said on Thursday the film did not break any laws.

Wilders has been under heavy guard because of Islamist death threats since the 2004 murder of Dutch director Theo van Gogh after he made a film critical of Islam's treatment of women...."

http://www.reuters.com/article/lates.../idUSL27204137

Ahh Yes- thanks for playing my IN-DENAL straight man

Just a few bad apples-- like after the WORLDWIDE Cartoon Riots.

Nor did you rebut a single thing in my Last post.. either.

TOTAL denial.

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Lie
That was the second WTC attack alone
Not to mention the Cole
African Embassy Bombings
7/7 in Britain
The Spanish Train Bombings
Bali
etc
etc
etc


By any measure, including your own dishonestly minimized one, Muslims are Disproportionately Violent.
Remember now wonder boy? You even got 50%.

At this point you're beyond Disingenuous - well into intentional BS.

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In denial about what?
The "WORLDWIDE Cartoon Riots", as you put it, at most had 20 - 30,000 rioters distributed across the world. Not exactly an uprising.

Denial indeed.
What cartoon riots it is now eh? :^)
Completely Deluded.
To the whole rest of the World it was quite telling and a Big Story.

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It was a very big story for many months in Denmark as well. It still pops up from time to time, most recently in connection with the Dutch politician's movie.

But this does not mean all people born into the Muslim religion must be wiped off the Earth. It means that the fanatics of Islam should be wiped out. And it means that Islam must be modernized, just at it happened to the Christian religion back in the 1500's.