You are going to need to be more specific as to exactly what you are talking about

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To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women

Did they look like psychos? Is that what they looked like? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a **** how crazy they are!

You are saying that Christians are justified in trying to eliminate Islam because it is a defensive action due to Muslim attacks on Christianity and Muslim attempts to oppress and tax non-Muslims.

Given that logic, then Jews worldwide would be completely justified to eliminate Christianity due to the oppression that Christians put them through prior to the Post-WWII era. A quick google or wiki search on pogroms, Medieval Jewish oppression, the Spanish Inquisition, or Muranos will give you some idea of what they went through.

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The point is show me the scripture that justifies it, or commands Christians to do what was done. If there is no scripture instructing Christians to do such things then it was done on their own account, Christianity had nada, zip, zilch to do with it.

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To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women

Did they look like psychos? Is that what they looked like? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a **** how crazy they are!

Kazan - argue with a wall or a pet rock, you are casting pearls among the swine.

If that is the case, then I would not agree with him, but that's not the reason that it spread to Africa, Europe, Asia and the middle east in a time spand of less than 100 years. Mohammad did not walk to those places and conquer them. In fact, the spread of it was so quick, they did not have the chance to set up any form of order. Kings or sultans or w/e popped up all over the place, the their religion branched off in many different directions. That's why there so many different sections of it within the same religion.

None of this matters though. The point is, muhammed might have felt that he could force his religion on people, and really you're not him nor were you there so don't know, but it is wrong to force a religion on a person, just like it is wrong to force someone to quit their religion - or destroy it.

Fantastic post. This thread is following a pattern. An over emotional "liberal" PC believer jumps in without reading the thread and defends islam against the onslaught and harshness of utter truth. When they discover that well it all started out violent and evil and stupid with the maniac psychopath muhammed they fade out with no real addressing of the core issue. islam is what muhammed made it and it is fundamentally evil to the core. Though some may only follow parts of it and sort of "be okay", all the rest of the muslims are the scum of the planet, in fact the scum of the Universe, in fact the scum of the entire history of the Universe. islamomoronism is as evil, as evil as evil can possibly get, a prototype of evil and stupidity that even the liberals will eventually realize needs to be utterly and completely annihalited in order to preserve any humanity in humankind. Any good muslim will abandon islam in recognition of its utter darkness and total evil and if not we should destroy them without mercy.

Death to the islamoretards!

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

Yeah it spread in 100 years but I think the time line pretty much shows what was conqured in 100 years. Jesus had 12 appostles, he didn't walk everywhere and spread Christianity but it still spread. The Pope didn't go eveywhere but Christianity still spread. The message was spread.


The split in Islam occured because of a murder ( kind of ironic)


"Ali is the central figure at the origin of the Shia / Sunni split which occurred in the decades immediately following the death of the Prophet in 632. Sunnis regard Ali as the fourth and last of the "rightly guided caliphs" (successors to Mohammed (pbuh) as leader of the Muslims) following on from Abu Bakr 632-634, Umar 634-644 and Uthman 644-656. Shias feel that Ali should have been the first caliph and that the caliphate should pass down only to direct descendants of Mohammed (pbuh) via Ali and Fatima, They often refer to themselves as ahl al bayt or "people of the house" [of the prophet].

When Uthman was murdered while at prayer, Ali finally succeeded to the caliphate. Ali was, however, opposed by Aisha, wife of the Prophet (pbuh) and daughter of Abu Bakr, who accused him of being lax in bringing Uthman's killers to justice. After Ali's army defeated Aisha's forces at the Battle of the Camel in 656, she apologized to Ali and was allowed to return to her home in Madinah where she withdrew from public life."

http://www.islamfortoday.com/shia.htm

Again refer to the quran for specifics on forced conversion.

I'm not going to change your mind and you aren't going to change mine, so I'll leave this

Some ideas out live there usefullness

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To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women

Did they look like psychos? Is that what they looked like? They were vampires. Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a **** how crazy they are!

No, please read what I wrote, I worte that 700 years ago...FROM TODAY was the 1300s 300 years before that there were crusades, within the 14-1500 there was spanish inquisitions and up to the 16th century there were holy wars even between christians like the thirty years war. Please learn how to read properly as I am simply saying that all religions have plenty of room for improvement but one cannot generalize and say that all terrorism is Muslim and even going so far as some of you have said by saying that Islam is rooted in terror.

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I am neither a Christian nor a Muslim. I am a Buddhist, but I am not devout Buddhist. The wisdom of destroying a another religion, in this case, Islam is very profoundly dangerous. The energy of such an idea or action will carry itself under its on weight, and is not controllable. People needs to stand clear from acting on this type of rhetoric.

First, you are specifying a religion for termination. The act of attacking another religion leads to the destruction of your own religion because the success of doing so, highly unlikely or hypothetical will lead to an attempt to change other religions or Christian denominations like baptist, catholicism, and etc, . It begs one to ask the dangerous question which is "If I can destroy a religion, which religion should I destroy, or control next. Do you see the perpetual avalanche coming? There is a fundamental similarity that exist between all religions. Religions have followers. Which leads to my next point.

Second, the Muslim population consists of different races, nationalities, and etc. The world Muslim population is around 1.6 billion people. It is ridiculous to think that you can destroy that many people. You can go right ahead. I am not participating.

Third, Bush does enough damage to our credibility as a nation. You want more of the same old not understanding your neighbors policy type of thinking. You need to do more thinking before you ask such dangerous questions.

I would like to say one thing before I stop posting in this tiring pointless discussion where no one is openminded and everyone holds a bias. All three religions have committed wars in the name of their particular religion. If you dont believe this then you need to go look up some history. Jihad is an inner struggle that has been misinterpretted by radicals as a fight against all those who are not muslim. Islam says that PAGANS should be converted, subject to a tax or die not christians or jews which it clearly accepts as religions to be tolerated. A war is a war and no doubt most of these wars have a true purpse rather than beeing all about religion. Religion is just used as an excuse by many to go fight... i.e. Muslims against Byzantines, Christians in Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, 30 years war, Israeli palestinian conflict (BY BOTH SIDES)! and the list goes on. If you have any other objections to these statements above that are all completely grounded in fact, please PM me as I will likely refrain from posting in this long thread mostly of closeminded people who are for the total expulsion of Islam.

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