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Old 04-28-2008, 01:11 PM
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It's easy to resort to namecalling and labels, when one cannot win a rational debate.
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Perhaps it's because of self-hating people like you
Contradiction.
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If we have it wrong, then you'll have no problem refuting the facts and arguments posed here. Ignoring them and launching into a rant, proves nothing.
Self contradicting. How can you claim that a rant solves nothing when you're the one that's ranting?
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:30 PM
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Contradiction.
How is the truth a contradiction? I'll stand by those words. Who was the one blaming the deaths of 3000 Americans on their own President? Is there a more tangible example of self-hate than this?

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Self contradicting. How can you claim that a rant solves nothing when you're the one that's ranting?
Do you have a point?
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That's quite interesting rational, but you're not answering my question leaves you looking like an idiot. See, you assume that these countries are only violent because of Islam. I'm not going to tell you that's not true, but if they are not, then your stupid rational that we should try to civilize them is meaningless. If they are still a violent nation after Islam is destroyed, then giving them education only arms them to better compete on a militaristic level. In fact, that makes your whole argument look treasonous. They could rise up and destroy us, they are after all the largest oil producing region in the world.
Really? I've always thought very highly of dying for one's country. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's how most armies are built.

Lmao why is that rich? Is it like a I've hit rock bottom sort of rich? Don't worry, it's not so bad to be out smarted by an anime geek. We are a superior breed, after all.
So basically what you are "hypothetically" saying is that people in the ME are inherently violent, regardless of religion? Ah here we go again with the insults, your rational is stupid. Maybe I think your rational is most likely the product of someone with a malformed chromosome.

Do you really think suicide bombers etc are dying for their country? They do this for completely selfish reasons like ticket strait to heaven, 72 virgins and slave boys, yeah noble cause.

Face it if your over 12 yrs old, you have hit rock bottom.
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That's quite interesting rational, but you're not answering my question leaves you looking like an idiot.
Actually, no. I'd say people who pose hypothetical questions as evidence are idiots.

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See, you assume that these countries are only violent because of Islam. I'm not going to tell you that's not true.
But it's not an assumption, given the nature of the Koran and the writings of the hadiths and suras. Islam has a strong militant aspect to it, and there's plenty of evidence to prove that statement.

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...but if they are not, then your stupid rational that we should try to civilize them is meaningless. If they are still a violent nation after Islam is destroyed, then giving them education only arms them to better compete on a militaristic level.
And this is your assumption, and a specious one at that: who's to say education cannot change one's religious outlook and tolerance? The whole course of Western history seems to indicate that the more education and civilization a people has, the more tolerance it attains.

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All Ibrahamic religions (that means Christianity, Islam and Jeudaism) are as idiotic as any other religion you can mention or imagine. They should all be destroyed, and the sooner the better.

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People in the ME are inherently violent, regardless of religion.
I think you're beginning to get my point. I also think you're a shining example of the type of person that proves my point.
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
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I think you're beginning to get my point. I also think you're a shining example of the type of person that proves my point.
So what? Who says your point is correct, other than you? So if i take a baby born in the middle east and it is adopted in say the US - is raised as an American with all the advantages of and American, when the child grows up he is going to be violent simply because he is of ME herritage?

Or are you saying the environement of the ME in which the child is raised is what causes the violence?

And I think you are a person that thinks they are smarter than they actually are
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