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Old 03-31-2008, 06:06 PM
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I'm sure their side of the story is somewhat the same as yours, except the roles of both religions are switched.

Let me guess, you follow a religion right? I guess that because you're solution is the typical one of the faithful. Kill people for their beliefs.
As is every single religion out there.
If it weren't for our secular government, christians here would kill and torture those that don't follow their faith. They always did in the past.
Yeah... I hear ya sis... of course the most lethal collection of human beings in the history of the species stands as the ideological left...

In the last century alone, taking OUT the wars started by the left or as a result OF the left, the left murder 150 million innocent people... There is no close second...

Let the record reflect that Islam is a function of the leftist ideology... with every major Islamic movement being advocates of the collective...
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It was a very big story for many months in Denmark as well. It still pops up from time to time, most recently in connection with the Dutch politician's movie.

But this does not mean all people born into the Muslim religion must be wiped off the Earth. It means that the fanatics of Islam should be wiped out. And it means that Islam must be modernized, just at it happened to the Christian religion back in the 1500's.
So now you've switiched to it WAS a big story.. but only when forced/humiliated.

More disingenuous posting.

We don't have 500 years to wait for Islam and it/they are social problem all over socialist Europe and scandinavia. A BIG problem.
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We don't have 500 years to wait for Islam and it/they are social problem all over socialist Europe and scandinavia. A BIG problem.
Yes, they are in trouble, dependent on the taxes of immigrants that want to kill them and destroy their culture, government, and country. What these islamic maniacs are doing and going to do throughout Europe and the UK is absolutely frightening. Its only a matter of time until the muslim majority starts massacring the infidels in Europe, the next holocaust. Of course, America will be begged to intervene and of course we will not abandon civilization to the islamic barbarity. The future is so very clear to those who will open their eyes and listen to the words of islam, the religion of evil. It is clear that muhammed is the most evil man in world history, as far as impact, and islam is the most evil ideology with its victims vastly outnumbering that of naziism.

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I agree that those declaring Holy War against us are our enemies. But the vast majority of Muslims have not declared war on us, or anyone else. Should this majority be exterminated too, just in case?
I sure am glad I opened up this can of worms.

Some of you want to argue that there are 1 billion + Muslims in the world. I would argue that there are 500 million + muslim men, and the women they enslave in the muslim world. Most of my critics no doubt, are of a particular idiology who are often heard saying they are for a womans right to choose. Well howsabout giving these women a choice between muslim or Christian or any other of a number of choices. How many of you actually believe they would choose what they have now? Be honest.

Funny how I am suggest that the idiology of Islam be destroyed and everyone assumes the worst. That I am calling for the extermination of 1 billion people. No. I am not. I'm suggesting we could get rid of this so called religion, though. How about we ban it and or covert its followers to other religions or just unbrain wash these turkeys.

For those who can't be treated by civilized means, and wish to become martyrs for Allah, then we should ablige them.
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I sure am glad I opened up this can of worms.

Some of you want to argue that there are 1 billion + Muslims in the world. I would argue that there are 500 million + muslim men, and the women they enslave in the muslim world. Most of my critics no doubt, are of a particular idiology who are often heard saying they are for a womans right to choose. Well howsabout giving these women a choice between muslim or Christian or any other of a number of choices. How many of you actually believe they would choose what they have now? Be honest.

Funny how I am suggest that the idiology of Islam be destroyed and everyone assumes the worst. That I am calling for the extermination of 1 billion people. No. I am not. I'm suggesting we could get rid of this so called religion, though. How about we ban it and or covert its followers to other religions or just unbrain wash these turkeys.

For those who can't be treated by civilized means, and wish to become martyrs for Allah, then we should ablige them.
Yes, that is a great idea! Let us "ban" a religion!

I am not a Muslim, but understand what Islam means, and in no way, shape or form, can it be destroyed. The more we try to suppress something, especially a religion, culture, or way of life, the stronger it becomes.

Just look at how many people are converting to Islam.

Would you agree, also, that we should get rid of Hinduism, because at the core of Hinduism, you would believe that Hindus are lazy and don't do anything, therefore not a productive member of society.

We should also get rid of religions related to Hinduism such as Buddhism and Taoism. We don't want people becoming lazy now do we?

Hell, we might as well get rid of everyone who doesn't have the same beliefs as you. I'm sure everyone would go along with that wouldn't they?

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All organized religions, in their extreme form, are dangers.

Name any major religion, and I will name a terrorist group associated with that religion. Speaking of terrorist acts on American soil, I can count more bombings and violence committed under the name of Christianity, than any other religion. But that does not make Christianity bad; like any organized religion, it's only dangerous in it's most extreme and intolerant form.

Spirituality is a personal matter (the best spiritual path as unique as the individual, so we can only choose for ourselves what feels right). And besides local houses of worship, which bring communities together, organized religion has done nothing but give rulers a way to keep populations under control.

To make it simple:
Religion is a blessing for many people.
Organization helps us achieve great things.

But when you put "organization" and "religion" together, that's where the real problems begin. Spirituality is meant to be mind-opening, mysterious, intuitive, relaxing, and comforting. The purpose of religion is to help bring us closer to the essence of our soul, and the collective soul of the universe.

But once the "organization" comes into play, that's where politics, divides, and conflicts spoil the divinity of spiritual enlightenment.

So let's not focus fighting Islam. We should instead recognize that each person's path towards spiritual peace is different, and many millions of Muslims use the religion to further understand their soul and the universe, just like any other peace-loving spiritual (which we all are, some just repress their soul and call themselves "atheist") person.

Both the Bible and Koran have lines that could be interpreted as a call to violence, but both books also have wisdoms that people of any religion could agree with. So let's not start quoting either book to prove that one religion is more evil. Both religions can be used for evil, depending on who is the center of the "organized" aspect of it.

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It's ignorant to blame an entire people for what a fringe .001% does. Christains bombs medical clinics; should we ban all Christains?
Nice try. Is this person actually comparing Christians to the bastards who killed 3,000 people on 9/11?

When did Christians start bombing medical clinics? Didn't get that memo last time I was in church.

Where did I blame an entire people? I just blamed an ignorant doctrinal ideology which is disguised as a religion. It is call Islam. I would say most of those who are catagorized as Muslim aren't by choice. Most of them are the victims of Islamic oppression.
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All organized religions, in their extreme form, are dangers.

Name any major religion, and I will name a terrorist group associated with that religion. Speaking of terrorist acts on American soil, I can count more bombings and violence committed under the name of Christianity, than any other religion. But that does not make Christianity bad; like any organized religion, it's only dangerous in it's most extreme and intolerant form.
Ha! Nice link! Trying to make Christians look like terrorist groups and talk about bombings and violence and the link takes you to a story where abortion clinics got letters in the mail with powder in them saying it was anthrax which turn out to be a hoax. It was harmless. Man, you are right, those Christians are evil. Can anyone think a more horrible thing to do?
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even if you want to, you can't destroy a religion. you can't destroy an ideology. you can kill all muslims but you can't destroy islam. fortunately there are some sane christians to avoid such conflicts.
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Ha! Nice link! Trying to make Christians look like terrorist groups and talk about bombings and violence and the link takes you to a story where abortion clinics got letters in the mail with powder in them saying it was anthrax which turn out to be a hoax. It was harmless. Man, you are right, those Christians are evil. Can anyone think a more horrible thing to do?
Are you claiming that the "Army of God" never committed an act of violence?

Another question: do you consider yourself Christian? Have you read the words of Christ? Do you believe we would agree with your call to wipe our millions of innocent people for the purpose of killing a few bad apples?

I realize I shouldn't be feeding trolls here. But I'm fascinated, because I don't know anybody (in person) with that kind of blind hate towards such a large, diverse, and 99.99 percent peaceful group of people. I'm trying to understand how somebody who considers themselves a "Christian" would ignore the core of the religion: to "love thy enemy" and everybody else for that matter.

Words from Jesus: For if you love only those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even tax-collectors do that! And if you exchange greetings only with your own circle, are you doing anything exceptional? Even the pagans do that much. No, you are to be perfect, like your Heavenly Father.

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