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Default New Crusades - Should Islam Be Destroyed?

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am sick and tired of all the political correctness surrounding the "Religion of Peace". The media, the politicians and leaders of all the western countries around the world have allowed too much of this slaughters to continue under the guise of religious tolerance. It seems to me that one can only tolerate so much until you get to a breaking point and you have to say, enough is enough!

Many people don't realize that the Crusades were not an offensive but a defensive action by Christians who were being denied access to the Holy Land by the followers of this new religion, and it was invading its southern areas and countries under European control from Greece to Spain.

This is after all, a religion that most unbiased observers would agree, was created by a perverse old man for the express purpose of controlling his subjects, followers and his wives. Muhammad was not a prophet, but one of the false prophets that Jesus warned us about.

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that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64; see also Numbers 65 and 8

A Muslim may say that, contrary to the opinion of Ibn Kathir and al-Shafi, the age of puberty cannot be fixed at fifteen since some girls attain puberty at a younger age. They may further argue that Aisha happened to attain puberty at nine, which means that she was lawful for Muhammad. The problem with this assertion is that it contradicts the express statements of specific Islamic sources that say that Aisha hadn’t attained puberty when Muhammad consummated his marriage with her
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Isn't anyone sick and tired of all the mayhem being committed worldwide in the name of Allah? How many times have you seen throngs of Muslims in the streets screaming death to Jews or America or Israel? They kill tens of people because a cartoon is printed in a newspaper. Who does this?

I think it is time to stop treating this religion as a religion, and call it was it really is, a political cult. It makes no difference between government and religion when it comes to laws or governance. I don't see any reason why it can't be banned. Anyone who wants to follow this "religion" should be encouraged to do so, in any Muslim country of their choice. Let's deport the ones we have, because if you ask me, they are all a threat to national security. When was the last time you saw Muslim Americans protesting in throngs in the streets about 9/11? About any act of terror? When have you ever seen any marching in the streets in support of our troops? Never.

So isn't it about time that we make a serious effort to effect a war not just on terrorism, but the root of terrorism, which is Islam?
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the simple answer to the title is. Absolutely not. End of story.
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the simple answer to the title is. Absolutely not. End of story.
Simple indeed. Absolutely simplistic. Have a look though, at the differences between Mohammad and Jesus:

http://www.carm.org/islam/Jesus_Muhammad.htm

If the Devil himself could create a religion, Islam would be it.
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Many people don't realize that the Crusades were not an offensive but a defensive action by Christians who were being denied access to the Holy Land by the followers of this new religion, and it was invading its southern areas and countries under European control from Greece to Spain.
I'm sure their side of the story is somewhat the same as yours, except the roles of both religions are switched.
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This is after all, a religion that most unbiased observers would agree, was created by a perverse old man for the express purpose of controlling his subjects, followers and his wives. Muhammad was not a prophet, but one of the false prophets that Jesus warned us about.
I'm sure their side of the story is somewhat the same as yours, except the roles of both religions are switched.

Let me guess, you follow a religion right? I guess that because you're solution is the typical one of the faithful. Kill people for their beliefs.
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I think it is time to stop treating this religion as a religion, and call it was it really is, a political cult.
As is every single religion out there.
If it weren't for our secular government, christians here would kill and torture those that don't follow their faith. They always did in the past.
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Default Hmmm.

Where have I heard this kind of rhetoric before? It sounds so familiar.

"Some religious or ethnic group is out to get you! It's responsible for all your problems! Its eradication will bring about a perfect world! Give up your liberties and your reason! Pledge your lives and your loyalty to ..."

... oh, wait. I know where I've heard this before.
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So isn't it about time that we make a serious effort to effect a war not just on terrorism, but the root of terrorism, which is Islam?
Yes - you are absolutely right. Islam is the root of all terrorism.

A lot of people don't realise that the IRA in Britain were all muslims. Same with the Basque ETA. Shining Path in Peru - all muslims. So are the Tamil Tigers. Italian Red Brigades - all muslims. The Nicaraguan Contra Death Squads were all muslims too. And Ronald Reagan who armed them - he was a muslim as well. The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda - pretend to be Christian, but we all know they are actually muslims as well. Then of course there are all those muslims that bomb abortion clinics in the USA.

Great you see you take a balanced and sensible view of this PatriotNews. This is not a subject that needs grossly inaccurate generalisations.
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I would hope that in the end, we would all be a part of one belief.

A belief based on rationality and science, mind you.
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I don't think you know a muslim personally. maybe you should live in some muslim countries for a while, then your radical Ideas will be gone.
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No matter what Muslims themselves say about their violence being about forcing Islam on the world, everyone knows that Islamic terror attacks would cease if Republicans in America could be restricted or eliminated, thereby stopping American imperialism abroad. Both Barak Obama and Hillary Clinton understand the necessity of repairing our image and bringing global peace.
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Religions and political philosophies are common scapegoats for ethnic conflict, used by people more interested in glorifying their own blind adherence to some other religion or ideology.
Religions and ideologies are mutable. They fill vaccuums and do so in a shape that fits best. Any religion or ideology can become a reason to kill if there is a real political or material imbalance. And any religion or ideology can be twisted just as easily into a peaceful movement if that is what works best.
To believe that Islam is at the root of the problems in the Middle East is ignorance of the real economic and political issues and conflicts in the area... which could just as easily be served by another religion or ideology.
And the belief that an outside group can somehow destroy a religion is either apology for a future genocide or just plain ignorance of human nature. I can only imagine people believing in a new crusade are just so caught up in their own zealousness for the "Western" ideology or Christian faith. This is how holy wars are perpetuated.
The foolishness that leads to such perpetuation was emboldened by the Cold War. Of course the Cold War did not actually destory an ideology... It simply led to the fall of an empire. In this case we are not talking about any coherent empire... or anything that can even be imagined as such.
Also the fact that most Muslims on the planet are peaceful really puts a dent in the insane notion that religion is the root cause.

More Reaganite BS to preserve the legacy and goals of their own god.
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