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Old 04-03-2008, 12:41 PM
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Not at all true. Just look how our Democrat-friendly media has catapaulted Barak Obama to the top of the consciousness of every American voter. Obama leads in every poll taken.

Some argue that Obama never authored a single piece of legislation and has the most liberal voting record of all Senators. Yet, with the help of our friends in the media and the positive image they helped to create, he enjoys massive support even among many self-described "conservatives" and "independents." His entire campaign has been based on emotionalism and sensationalism rather than boring policy details, and has been constantly projected as being "fresh" and "bringing change" by our supporters in the media.

We'd better give credit where credit is due to our friends................... if we expect them to remain friendly.
I think that Obama does make policy statements -- but the media has told you that he doesn't.
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:43 PM
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MSNBC.com identified 143 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 16 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113485
Yeah -- turns out that once you start investigating people for a living and seeing what they're up to, you don't vote Republican. I wonder why that is?
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:45 PM
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Did you not see post #54 where the actual FBI site was posted.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm


http://www.voltairenet.org/article155945.html
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-s...laden-to-9-11/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=2623


All your questions would have been answered if you actually took time to read the links. As for any of them being compared to the National Enquire, it wouldn't be too hard for you or others to discredit them. If you can't back up your statement then run along.
All it is is a poster of Osama. Where do the FBI actually say there is no hard evidence linking him to 9/11?
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:46 PM
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The point you were trying to make is bunk. Sure, one meaning of "liberal" is "free, or freedom-loving," but we are referring to a particular political and social viewpoint that is also called "liberal." There is a disparity between classical liberalism, which seems to favor what you think is going on, qwerty, and the current American ideological set known collectively as "liberalism." In terms of this debate, liberal is a particular slant or perspective, and has nothing to do with loving freedom.
So what you're saying is, "We don't want to deal with the real definition of liberalism, because that's positive. We prefer to stick with our slanderous, fictional definition of liberalism that allows us to be totally negative and hateful!"
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No, what I saw is some guy on the internet put it in quotes and claim a story no one else in the world had. There was no link to an interview proving he said it. But I didn't know it was in quotes! Wait, in a recent interview Tuatara said "I likes me a little man love in the morning!" Hey look! I used quotes! It must be true then!



Your websites contain the usual "the US was behind or allowed 9/11" bs.

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-s...al-9-11-story/

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-s...ment-for-9-11/
Good point. The internet is a place where anyone can make anything look legit. Just becuase it is on a website does not make it real.

I'd need a legit link to an actual credible website where this FBI guy supposedly said this to believe it.

If a press conference was held certainly main stream press would have been there otherwise are we to believe this FBI guy gave a scoop of a lifetime to some unknown website guy? And even then nobody followed up on it?
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All it is is a poster of Osama. Where do the FBI actually say there is no hard evidence linking him to 9/11?
Guess I have to hold your hand through this. It states Osama is wanted
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in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people
No mention of the 911 attacks. A journalist with integrity called up the FBI and asked why. This is what the media is supposed to do.
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Good point. The internet is a place where anyone can make anything look legit. Just becuase it is on a website does not make it real.

I'd need a legit link to an actual credible website where this FBI guy supposedly said this to believe it.

If a press conference was held certainly main stream press would have been there otherwise are we to believe this FBI guy gave a scoop of a lifetime to some unknown website guy? And even then nobody followed up on it?
Like I said before if the site isn't credible or legitimate then you will not have any trouble discrediting what was reported.

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Like I said before if the site isn't credible or legitimate then you will not have any trouble discrediting what was reported.

You have nothing
That's what nutty conspiracy theorists do. They toss out wild claims and then make the other person disprove them.

Sorry, but YOU have to make your case. Not the other way around.
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Guess I have to hold your hand through this. It states Osama is wanted No mention of the 911 attacks. A journalist with integrity called up the FBI and asked why. This is what the media is supposed to do.
As the other poster pointed out there is no link to a legit press conference or any way to validate that anyone from the FBI said anything other than the fact that it is posted on the website, a nutty unknown to most website.

So CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and other outlets were all in on the conspiracy to keep this secret? But they had no problem with the very public debate about how Saddam had no WMD and the accusations that Bush lied to go to war with that country?

Why one and not the other? Hmmmm?
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You would...and evidence has been presented. We have a dozen threads completely debunking the Osama wasn't responsible for 9/11 nonsense.



What it has to do with is that high school kids are incredibly gullible. Maturity tends to do away with that gullibility. So yes age does have a lot to do with it. Kids fall for these websites and skinhead propoganda, not people in their 40's. You don't ever, or rarely, see an adult decide later in life "I'm gonna become a skinhead." It's naive kids who do it. So yes, age is very relevant.



Of course it's liberal and several studies have proven it. Whether you look at the outlets themselves or the reporters...liberal up and down the line. Loudness and controversy doesn't identify if someone is liberal or conservative.

You are right. Let's look at the guy who kind of started the skinhead thing. Hitler, he was 17 when he took over control of germany right? Wait, what! He was an adult, must be some sort of mistake. Stalin an adult too, another mistake! What, almost all of the bad that has been done in the last few hundred years was done by people 30 or over! Wow, it looks like your idea is complete nonsense!

And also, of course loudness has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative! That was my point! Political leanings are irrelevant, for every liberal, I can name you a conservative! Name me 1 thoughtful, and intelligent commentator, and I will name you 10 loud and controversial people! That is my point, it is about selling their news! And people who are loud and controversial get the best ratings. So networks don't care if they are liberal or conservative, as long as they are getting ratings.
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