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Does this make sense to anyone? Anyone???
It completely makes sense. What part don't you get?
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Does this make sense to anyone? Anyone???
Global warming is a lie, just like most liberal media (including this).

That's the dumbed down version of what I said. I can't/wont make it any simpler. I should have expected your comprehension to be low when I realized that you actually believed that video.
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Global warming is a lie, just like most liberal media (including this).
Global Warning is a lie. Tell these guys

World Meteorological Organization
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
United Nations Environmental Programme
National Academy of Sciences
The American Meteorological Society
American Geophysical Union
American Association for the Advancement of Science
David Suzuki Foundation
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
Network of African Science Academies
U.S. National Research Council
Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
American Institute of Physics
American Astronomical Society
American Physical Society
Federal Climate Change Science Program
National Center for Atmospheric Research
American Association for the Advancement of Science
Stratigraphy Commission of the Geological Society of London
American Quaternary Association
Geological Society of America
American Chemical Society
Federation of American Scientists
Engineers Australia (The Institution of Engineers Australia)
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
European Geosciences Union
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
International Union of Geological Sciences
International Council for Science
European Science Foundation


...and you know more than them. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


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That's the dumbed down version of what I said. I can't/wont make it any simpler. I should have expected your comprehension to be low when I realized that you actually believed that video.

Please dispute anything in the video. What is your analysis of how the News works? Seriously. You made no attempt to tackle anything in the video. In fact not one person has. Show me at least that you acknowledged what's in the video. Or is that too hard for you?
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:43 PM
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Global Warning is a lie. Tell these guys

World Meteorological Organization
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
United Nations Environmental Programme
National Academy of Sciences
The American Meteorological Society
American Geophysical Union
American Association for the Advancement of Science
David Suzuki Foundation
European Academy of Sciences and Arts
Network of African Science Academies
U.S. National Research Council
Royal Meteorological Society (UK)
American Institute of Physics
American Astronomical Society
American Physical Society
Federal Climate Change Science Program
National Center for Atmospheric Research
American Association for the Advancement of Science
Stratigraphy Commission of the Geological Society of London
American Quaternary Association
Geological Society of America
American Chemical Society
Federation of American Scientists
Engineers Australia (The Institution of Engineers Australia)
Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences
European Geosciences Union
International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
International Union of Geological Sciences
International Council for Science
European Science Foundation


...and you know more than them. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha





Please dispute anything in the video. What is your analysis of how the News works? Seriously. You made no attempt to tackle anything in the video. In fact not one person has. Show me at least that you acknowledged what's in the video. Or is that too hard for you?
I would, but it's late, and I don't feel like it. The video is merely a misconception of how the news works. As proof, the video claims that global warming isn't real, when you claim it is. Aside from that small fact, the rest of the video is total bull. It's also pointless to argue with you, I don't watch the news. I generally read internet news papers. I find my day to be a lot more pleasant with out the cathartic gore.
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I would, but it's late, and I don't feel like it. The video is merely a misconception of how the news works. As proof, the video claims that global warming isn't real, when you claim it is. Aside from that small fact, the rest of the video is total bull. It's also pointless to argue with you, I don't watch the news. I generally read internet news papers. I find my day to be a lot more pleasant with out the cathartic gore.
I knew you didn't see the video. The global warning part is on the screen shot and it's the only part you mentioned. In fact it has very little to do with the film. You just caught yourself in a lie.

Is there not one intelligent conservative that can actually debate the context of the movie? Just one??
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Global warming may be a reality but I've heard many scientists disagree that it is man made.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-gwn081203.php


Global warming will not be helped much by efforts to reduce carbon dioxide emission into the atmosphere, say two scientists who have studied the matter.
Dr. Nir Shaviv, an astrophysicist from the Racah Institute of Physics of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and Prof. Jan Veizer a geochemist at the University of Ottawa in Canada and Ruhr University in Germany, say that temperature variations are due more to cosmic forces than to the actions of man.

In a recent article published in GSA Today (the journal of the Geographic Society of America) and described in Nature, Shaviv and Veizer tell of their studies illustrating a correlation between past cosmic ray flux – the high-energy particles reaching us from stellar explosions -- and long-term climate variability, as recorded by oxygen isotopes trapped in rocks formed by ancient marine fossils. The level of cosmic ray activity reaching the earth and its atmosphere is reconstructed using another isotopic record in meteorites.

The study showed that peak periods of cosmic rays reaching the earth over the past 550 million years coincided with lower global temperatures, apparently due to the way that the cosmic rays promote low-level cloud formation (hence blocking out sun warming). No correlation was obtained, however, with the changing amount of atmospheric carbon dioxide.

The conclusion of the two scientists is, therefore, that celestial processes seem to be the dominant influence on climate change, and that increased carbon dioxide release, while certainly not beneficial, is only secondary to those forces which are beyond our control.

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http://www.reason.com/news/show/34939.html

But University of Alabama at Huntsville climatologist John Christy, a climate expert on whom I have relied for years, makes some interesting observations about the Arctic Council's report. "If you look at the long term records, the Arctic has been as warm or warmer than it is today," says Christy. He cites temperature data from the Hadley Centre in the UK showing that from 70 degrees north latitude to the pole, the warmest years on record in the Arctic were 1937 and 1938. This area is just slightly above the Arctic Circle.

Furthermore, those same records show that the Arctic warmed twice as fast between 1917 and 1937 as it has in the past 20 years. After 1940, the Arctic saw a big cool-down and climatologists noted sea ice expanding in the northern Atlantic. Christy argues that what he calls the Great Climate Shift occurred in the late 1970s and caused another sudden warming in the Arctic. Since the late 1970s there has not been much additional warming in the region at all. In fact, on page 23, the Arctic Council Assessment offers very similar data for Arctic temperature trends from 60 degrees north latitude—the area that includes most of Alaska and essentially all of Greenland, most of Norway and Sweden, and the bulk of Russia.

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Not at all true. Just look how our Democrat-friendly media has catapaulted Barak Obama to the top of the consciousness of every American voter. Obama leads in every poll taken.

Some argue that Obama never authored a single piece of legislation and has the most liberal voting record of all Senators. Yet, with the help of our friends in the media and the positive image they helped to create, he enjoys massive support even among many self-described "conservatives" and "independents." His entire campaign has been based on emotionalism and sensationalism rather than boring policy details, and has been constantly projected as being "fresh" and "bringing change" by our supporters in the media.

We'd better give credit where credit is due to our friends................... if we expect them to remain friendly.
I would say the media bends left. I took a journalism course in college and one of our assignments was to track a major newspaper for a month. High-lighting pro-arguments- anti-arguments, innuendo and so forth in supposed news reporting. It was explained the job of the media is to present a story and tell the facts then dig further if needed.

Over the month we as a class found that 63% of the articles had opinions, needless facts that slanted the story, sentence structure that led to a conclusion.

An example on the news they consistantly talk about the presidents low approval rating by saying 68% disapprove of the job he is doing. When talking about the Congressional job approval instead of saying 78% disapprove they say the Congress has seen there approval rating grow by 2% over the last month.

Some of the things that I saw during that time. The Democratic Senator that took the bribes and hid them in his freezer was described as conservative Senator. Normally during stories about elected officials you would get (d-NJ) or (r-FLA) near there name to let you know the area they represented. Negatives about Republican always showed that, negatives against Democrats did but only sometimes.

I am Conservative, I don't particularly like either party and I don't think all news is slanted. I do think a good % of "news" is slanted toward the opinion of the writer which tends to be left.
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The problem many liberals have, is they don't know where the line is! There is acceptable controversy, and unacceptable controversy! Liberals too often cross over into the unacceptable region and say politically incorrect things!
In other words, liberals are too stupid to know where to stop.

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Like maybe the terrorists don't hate us for our freedom, but for our foreign policy! That is politically incorrect and is the type of thing that gets people in trouble! Saying bad things about fereigners is fine(which is what conservatives do), but saying bad things about america will not be tolerated!
They are just being honest about their hatred for American.

They are also discovering that hatred for America doesn't sell, not here anyway. Here's an idea, Air America should broadcast their program on Al Jazeera, they will certainly find a receptive audience there....
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Often you here from the right that the media is slanted to the left. Yet they cannot prove this assertion. I will show you that the mainstream American media does not slant or is biased towards the left.

One argument I have heard is that an overwhelming amount of journalists and newscasters are Liberal. I am not going to argue that point. The point is that the news we read in our newspaper and see on TV is finalized by editors who have to answer to CEOs who have to answer to their corporate advertisers. Also keep in mind that the News agencies have a strong relationship with their corporate shareholders and owners.



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YouTube - How The News Works
While the basic premise of the video - Ownership is worried about keeping an audience to then sell their audience to advertisers is correct - your arguments fall apart when you try to throw it into a right wing thing.

It's cute and I like how your examples of the evil Right wing go all the way back to the 70's without any mention of the MoveOn, Center for American progess and Media Matters of the Left today that dominate the message being given. The money is the key and the Left is far better organized and consistant with showing outrage and threatening the corporations that go against their message than the Right is.

Just look at Fox News, they report differently than CNN, MSNBC et al and the Democrat candidates boycott debates on Fox. While CNN and the rest of the true left leaning "news" orgs aren't boycotted by the Republicans. So who holds the power left or right?
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