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Old 04-05-2008, 07:48 AM
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While the basic premise of the video - Ownership is worried about keeping an audience to then sell their audience to advertisers is correct - your arguments fall apart when you try to throw it into a right wing thing.

It's cute and I like how your examples of the evil Right wing go all the way back to the 70's without any mention of the MoveOn, Center for American progess and Media Matters of the Left today that dominate the message being given. The money is the key and the Left is far better organized and consistant with showing outrage and threatening the corporations that go against their message than the Right is.

Just look at Fox News, they report differently than CNN, MSNBC et al and the Democrat candidates boycott debates on Fox. While CNN and the rest of the true left leaning "news" orgs aren't boycotted by the Republicans. So who holds the power left or right?
Democratic candidates are afraid to enter hostile territory while Republicans are not. Period.
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Old 04-05-2008, 07:57 AM
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Democratic candidates are afraid to enter hostile territory while Republicans are not. Period.
Point taken, anyplace that might force them to explain their stance and justify a position would destroy their future.
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Democratic candidates are afraid to enter hostile territory while Republicans are not. Period.
gosh, I must have missed that Republican debate on Telemundo.

Can you fill us in on who went to that?

We'll wait.
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:17 AM
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While the basic premise of the video - Ownership is worried about keeping an audience to then sell their audience to advertisers is correct - your arguments fall apart when you try to throw it into a right wing thing.
It's cute and I like how your examples of the evil Right wing go all the way back to the 70's without any mention of the MoveOn, Center for American progess and Media Matters of the Left today that dominate the message being given.
Dominate the message being given? I remember when move.on posted a video about Saddam being on the CIA payroll. I researched it and found it to be true. Yet no mention of it from the corporate media. Give an example of any message being given that is dominated by the organizations you mentioned.
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The money is the key and the Left is far better organized and consistant with showing outrage and threatening the corporations that go against their message than the Right is.
Yet thousands of environmental impact stories never make it to the mainstream media, many stories about corporate fraud never make it, stories of blatant corruption and secrecy are ignored. I can give so many concrete examples of concerns that the media totally ignored. See post #2 for a few examples.

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Just look at Fox News, they report differently than CNN, MSNBC et al and the Democrat candidates boycott debates on Fox. While CNN and the rest of the true left leaning "news" orgs aren't boycotted by the Republicans. So who holds the power left or right?
All the debates are a joke. All the questions are pre-approved by a committee that is representative of both parties. As for the Democrats not being involved in a debate on FOX, can you blame them.
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Mr Obama has had a testy relationship with Fox News. He was said to be deeply angry earlier year when the channel repeated a false claim that he had attended a radical Islamic school when he was a child in Indonesia.

Last month, the head of Fox News, Roger Ailes, further angered Mr Obama's supporters when he told a joke at the News Directors Foundation Dinner in Washington in which he compared the senator's name to that of Osama bin Laden.
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Sorry but conservative talk radio is popular, because as I have said before, rush limbaugh, sean hannity, bill oreilly, and michael savage are loud and controversial egomaniacs!
Actually, our studies have shown that conservative talk radio is popular because, unlike our TV journalists and commentators, the talk radio shows allow listeners to participate. We must, however, continue to promote our side and views without the public feedback that dilutes and weakens our message.

Forcing radio stations to provide equal time to our side will surely result in their abandonment of conservative programs due to the historic drop in advertising revenue into their greedy pockets.
Our efforts in establishing the "Fairness Doctrine" as federal law is a must-do if we ever expect to silence the conservative right-wingers and move our agenda ahead unimpeded by our detractors.

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An example on the news they consistantly talk about the presidents low approval rating by saying 68% disapprove of the job he is doing. When talking about the Congressional job approval instead of saying 78% disapprove they say the Congress has seen there approval rating grow by 2% over the last month.
Well, are you bemoaning the fact that we have succeeded in enlisting the media on our side while your side layed around presuming equality would magically exist without your putting forth effort? Looks like your candidate McCain is doing the exact same thing..............if he chooses to sit idly by and refuse to capitalize on our unfortunate squabbles, then he deserves to get defeated in Nov.
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gosh, I must have missed that Republican debate on Telemundo.

Can you fill us in on who went to that?

We'll wait.
I can't find any details on that. Care to help me?
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I knew you didn't see the video. The global warning part is on the screen shot and it's the only part you mentioned. In fact it has very little to do with the film. You just caught yourself in a lie.

Is there not one intelligent conservative that can actually debate the context of the movie? Just one??
O.o Now hold on. I watched your fantastic movie. I just don't feel like wasting my time debating you. kthanx

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O.o Now hold on. I watched your fantastic movie. I just don't feel like wasting my time debating you. kthanx

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Thanks for coming out. This is way too easy.
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Thanks for coming out. This is way too easy.
At least I'm not Canadian ^.^
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