You know for a fact it was invented by old people? More importantly, modern day it is filled with young people. It's a generalization, but an accurate one.

You can repeat it as many times as you like. Liberal media does indeed get ratings. The NY Times, CBS, Newsweek etc. Loud and controversial is a new phenomenon and only on tv/radio. So yes, the elite media is by and large liberal. As several studies have already proven.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

No it hasn't been proven. Have you not been paying attention? Very dishonest of you.

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Yes it has been proven, several studies already proved it. You must have ignored them because they didn't give you the answer you want to hear. Speaking of dishonesty.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

Are you talking about the link MasTequila gave in post #143 which was debunked several times in the very next post. Or are you talking about the journalists being liberal which I showed that the journalists do not make the decisions as to what goes on the air.

Seriously, am I going to have to repeat myself a hundred times again.

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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts.

It was debunked? LOL, it was disputed by well known liberal organizations like Media Matters. Circular logic. So no, it was not debunked. And you did not show that journalists do not make decisions, newspaper journalists write their own articles, Rather has say on how a story plays out, he can choose what and how he tells a story, and media outlets like Viacomm are mostly liberal.

1,000 times...it won't change the facts.

Walter Kronkite, a liberal, admits the media is liberal. http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,38...103681,00.html

Or you can go to the Boston Globe or any other liberal newspaper and search for left wing vs right wing as I did here The hysteria of the rightwing

and discover that not surprisingly right wing is used far more times.

Dems are recipients of political donations far more often than Repubs. http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp?Ind=B02

This mathematical study by Stanford/U of Chicago http://mason.gmu.edu/~atabarro/MediaBias.doc

This poll showing voters feel there is a bias towards liberals http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...newspaper_bias

This on top of polls where the public in general feels the media is liberal as well as a poll of journalists who admit they are mostly liberal.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

Media Bias Is Real, Finds UCLA Political Scientist

By Meg Sullivan| 12/14/2005 5:36:31 PM


While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than The New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left.

These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly.

"I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican," said Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study's lead author. "But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions are."

"Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left," said co‑author Jeffrey Milyo, University of Missouri economist and public policy scholar.

The results appear in the latest issue of the Quarterly Journal of Economics, which will become available in mid-December.

Groseclose and Milyo based their research on a standard gauge of a lawmaker's support for liberal causes. Americans for Democratic Action (ADA) tracks the percentage of times that each lawmaker votes on the liberal side of an issue. Based on these votes, the ADA assigns a numerical score to each lawmaker, where "100" is the most liberal and "0" is the most conservative. After adjustments to compensate for disproportionate representation that the Senate gives to low‑population states and the lack of representation for the District of Columbia, the average ADA score in Congress (50.1) was assumed to represent the political position of the average U.S. voter.

Groseclose and Milyo then directed 21 research assistants — most of them college students — to scour U.S. media coverage of the past 10 years. They tallied the number of times each media outlet referred to think tanks and policy groups, such as the left-leaning NAACP or the right-leaning Heritage Foundation.

Next, they did the same exercise with speeches of U.S. lawmakers. If a media outlet displayed a citation pattern similar to that of a lawmaker, then Groseclose and Milyo's method assigned both a similar ADA score.

"A media person would have never done this study," said Groseclose, a UCLA political science professor, whose research and teaching focuses on the U.S. Congress. "It takes a Congress scholar even to think of using ADA scores as a measure. And I don't think many media scholars would have considered comparing news stories to congressional speeches."

Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal.

Only Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and The Washington Times scored right of the average U.S. voter.

The most centrist outlet proved to be the "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown" and ABC's "Good Morning America" were a close second and third.

"Our estimates for these outlets, we feel, give particular credibility to our efforts, as three of the four moderators for the 2004 presidential and vice-presidential debates came from these three news outlets — Jim Lehrer, Charlie Gibson and Gwen Ifill," Groseclose said. "If these newscasters weren't centrist, staffers for one of the campaign teams would have objected and insisted on other moderators."

The fourth most centrist outlet was "Special Report With Brit Hume" on Fox News, which often is cited by liberals as an egregious example of a right-wing outlet. While this news program proved to be right of center, the study found ABC's "World News Tonight" and NBC's "Nightly News" to be left of center. All three outlets were approximately equidistant from the center, the report found.

"If viewers spent an equal amount of time watching Fox's 'Special Report' as ABC's 'World News' and NBC's 'Nightly News,' then they would receive a nearly perfectly balanced version of the news," said Milyo, an associate professor of economics and public affairs at the University of Missouri at Columbia.

Five news outlets — "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," ABC's "Good Morning America," CNN's "NewsNight With Aaron Brown," Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and the Drudge Report — were in a statistical dead heat in the race for the most centrist news outlet. Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist.

An additional feature of the study shows how each outlet compares in political orientation with actual lawmakers. The news pages of The Wall Street Journal scored a little to the left of the average American Democrat, as determined by the average ADA score of all Democrats in Congress (85 versus 84). With scores in the mid-70s, CBS' "Evening News" and The New York Times looked similar to Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., who has an ADA score of 74.

Most of the outlets were less liberal than Lieberman but more liberal than former Sen. John Breaux, D-La. Those media outlets included the Drudge Report, ABC's "World News Tonight," NBC's "Nightly News," USA Today, NBC's "Today Show," Time magazine, U.S. News & World Report, Newsweek, NPR's "Morning Edition," CBS' "Early Show" and The Washington Post.

Since Groseclose and Milyo were more concerned with bias in news reporting than opinion pieces, which are designed to stake a political position, they omitted editorials and Op‑Eds from their tallies. This is one reason their study finds The Wall Street Journal more liberal than conventional wisdom asserts.

Another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom was that the Drudge Report was slightly left of center.

"One thing people should keep in mind is that our data for the Drudge Report was based almost entirely on the articles that the Drudge Report lists on other Web sites," said Groseclose. "Very little was based on the stories that Matt Drudge himself wrote. The fact that the Drudge Report appears left of center is merely a reflection of the overall bias of the media."

Yet another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom relates to National Public Radio, often cited by conservatives as an egregious example of a liberal news outlet. But according to the UCLA-University of Missouri study, it ranked eighth most liberal of the 20 that the study examined.

"By our estimate, NPR hardly differs from the average mainstream news outlet," Groseclose said. "Its score is approximately equal to those of Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report and its score is slightly more conservative than The Washington Post's. If anything, government‑funded outlets in our sample have a slightly lower average ADA score (61), than the private outlets in our sample (62.."

The researchers took numerous steps to safeguard against bias — or the appearance of same — in the work, which took close to three years to complete. They went to great lengths to ensure that as many research assistants supported Democratic candidate Al Gore in the 2000 election as supported President George Bush. They also sought no outside funding, a rarity in scholarly research.

"No matter the results, we feared our findings would've been suspect if we'd received support from any group that could be perceived as right- or left-leaning, so we consciously decided to fund this project only with our own salaries and research funds that our own universities provided," Groseclose said.

The results break new ground.

"Past researchers have been able to say whether an outlet is conservative or liberal, but no one has ever compared media outlets to lawmakers," Groseclose said. "Our work gives a precise characterization of the bias and relates it to known commodity — politicians."

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One of many studies,this being the most comprehensive IMHO.I can link it up for you.

It doesnt really matter what criteria you use.From liberal journalists, who admittedly outnumber conservatives on a strictly numerical basis or programmers/editors whos liberal agenda driven direction can be seen by even the every night flipping thru the channels/pages.Its not hard to see.The same way its easy to see the right lean on a FOX broadcast the same holds true for the largely liberal MSM,exc tenfold.

Why is it no other MSM outlet is coupled with FOX when discussing political standards EVER.

Mr. Irrelevant...see post #143 and the one below it.

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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts.

What's to see? Liberal websites like Media Matters founded and funded by Democrats debunking an article that the media is liberal? LOL, well gee...color me surprised. What's next, an article from the KKK saying neo nazi's aren't racist?

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

Debunked? Just like the official 911 story right.

There will never be a definitive methodology to calculate the exact amount of liberal bias.This liberal bias is somewhat of a relative term.In the end though the lean is easy to see and difficult to 'prove' with any one formula.However when taken as a collective and a matched up against the coverage itself a trend is apparent.

Heres a study,polled the journalists themselves.PEW research.


http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2...ort%202008.pdf

Nationally 32% described themselves as liberal compared to 8% conservative.The middle of the road was taken up by 'moderates' who I suspect are in large part liberals who wont admit it,as is the case for so many liberals.

Let see, a paper done by University students is reported by a right-wing site. I debunked it by showing several other papers from universities that left-wing sites put up. You can't claim one side and not your own. Do you think a right-wing site would publish the findings that would debunk the original claim?

Well you certainly have no idea how the Media works. Do you think these "Liberal" journalists just go ahead with their stories unchecked by editors who have to answer to those higher than them (like the corporations that own the media) and have it aired or printed. Not once during Clinton's reign did I ever hear the term "liberal media" nor did I hear it when Bush was taking the country to war. Now that Bush is getting some criticism the only defense is "must be a liberal media" Can you imagine Liberals using this as an excuse when any criticisms were made of Clinton "must be a conservative media" It is the media's job to probe, dig deep, uncover all the information of any and all stories. This has not been done.
Story is not there. Funny you are using the Guardian. Last time I used that I got accused of using a "kook Liberal" site. If you don't get the same then we know that that particular user is biased in their opinion and it amounts to nothing.
This is a link to another thread that didn't show any Boston Globe links.
Absolute BS link. Who is throwing out biased links now? Funny your link never mentioned this.
or this
also don't forget that some of that GOP money went elsewhere.
Doesn't download for me.
Public opinion polls don't make false claims true.

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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts.