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And you feel this is my problem? It's two words Karl... look them up and combine the concepts...
Aw, this is a bit cruel.

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So you just want to ignore the polls that show that 90% of 'journalist' support the leftist ideology by being registered in leftist parties and providing direct funding to leftist candidates and causes?

Well that IS handy...

Ain't delusion grand, friends?

FYI: That's what we call refutation my little commie friend... and FTR: You're not required to accept it, for your position to be refuted.

I do hope that helps...
Congratulations. You're the 5th conservative rehashing something I addressed in the first post. Next I might suggest that you actually read through the posts so we are not repeating ourselves over and over.
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I will show you that the mainstream American media does not slant or is biased towards the left.
Believe it or not, showing a youtube video proves nothing. The video doesn't even have a name, face or a recognizable organization, yet they pretend to be telling the truth.
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One argument I have heard is that an overwhelming amount of journalists and newscasters are Liberal.
Impressive ignorance. However, it is not true. Liberals like to claim to be non-partisan. It is in no way true, they are partisan, but they'll never tell you that.

Here is a video that demonstrates this: Amazing isn't it? She came on there to talk about a children's book, yet she was hammered with questions about politics? I guess that's not too hard to believe considering that we're dealing with a major liberal bias.
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YouTube - How The News Works
I find this video most interesting. I tried my best to come up with a argument using youtube. I could not. It appears that youtube doesn't have any hypnotic omonus voice telling me that I should believe the media is left slanting. Do you find that ironic? I do. How could anyone claim that there is a right slant in media while they're on a medium that is solely left slanting?

This video is interesting. I love how they state the same facts that you do, and that we all seem to agree upon: that most journalists are left slanting. What I find even more lovely is how they simply deny it as not true - just like you. And the real beauty is that - just like you - they don't prove anything. They deny the truth, and tell you not to believe that facts that they agree with. They don't present anything new and fact based. It's like a hug for liberals - like yourself - who go on forums and state false ideas about the media actually being right slanting. Does it make you feel better knowing that there are actually people who believe this too? I hope so. I wouldn't want you to feel all alone - seeing as no one has been on your side in this stupid argument.

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Congratulations. You're the 5th conservative rehashing something I addressed in the first post. Next I might suggest that you actually read through the posts so we are not repeating ourselves over and over.
So you concede?

Fair enough... your concession is duly noted and summarily excepted.

Let the record reflect that dismissing the facts is not a refutation of the facts...
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There is NO Liberal Media because they are all on Rosie O'Donald's cruise!
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Congratulations. You're the 5th conservative rehashing something I addressed in the first post. Next I might suggest that you actually read through the posts so we are not repeating ourselves over and over.
LOL I love this argument. "I'M NOT LISTENING TO THE FACTS. SHUT UP. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT TRUE." It's so easy to see you're full of it.
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No Liberal media?

what about lurch? (Hannity's liberal partner's show)
what about Whoopi Goldberg's show?

the left is none supportive of their own programing ...

the only reason newspapers are still making it is because of the other stuff like coupons that the women like ...
... and the stock reports ...
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So you concede?

Fair enough... your concession is duly noted and summarily excepted.

Let the record reflect that dismissing the facts is not a refutation of the facts...
I guess like many others you need your little hand held through this process. In post #1 I said
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One argument I have heard is that an overwhelming amount of journalists and newscasters are Liberal. I am not going to argue that point. The point is that the news we read in our newspaper and see on TV is finalized by editors who have to answer to CEOs who have to answer to their corporate advertisers. Also keep in mind that the News agencies have a strong relationship with their corporate shareholders and owners.
Do you see that. Journalists do not make the decision for the final product. Look at the second video in post #243 at the 4;12 mark. Not one of you is able to recognize the flaw with your argument. Now stop being stupid and learn how to actually debate on the subject at hand.
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Not once did this historian refer to him as a Liberal except for this passage. "Roosevelt's Legacy the redefinition of American liberalism."
Not once except the quote you provided. In other words yes, he referred to him as a liberal. The link also shows his support for unions, a
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, distributing "wealth and products more equitably," his opposition to conservative democrats (and what is the opposite of conservative?), believed in a large central government, received support from progressives and liberals, faced conservative opposition (again, the opposit of conservative is?), coined the term New Deal Liberalism, helped form the next liberal experiment (Great Society), and a host of other evidence. On the other hand, you have yet to offer even a small crumb or morsel that he was anything but liberal as viewed by historians and others.

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But he did refer to Truman in this way
So a historian that you put faith in called Truman a moderate.
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The point is we are talking about leaders of today or recent history.
Actually we're talking about your error riddled definition of liberal and conservative.

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No they didn't. They used that term today to decsribe what they did in 1987. Find me a letter/article from 1987.
I don't have to, the creators of the organization themselves say they came into extistance in 1987 to fight a liberal media. The end. Unless you can find something proving the owners are lying about their reasons for creating it. I'll wait here while you prove that.

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No, 1 out of 5. Like I said show me (except for the one where the term "liberal media" was used in any of those links before 1999.
I showed you in every one of them. Your argument is they are lying. Prove it. And if mentioned even one time, that erases your argument.

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So you were wrong because he didn't even come close to what you said.
I was right because it is nearly identical to what he said. Those in the media lean liberal.

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So this is where your theory falls apart. If we were to ask the general public if the ACLU were a liberal organization we know the public opinion would definitely put them as liberal. Since the study labeled them as conservative that makes either your theory completely wrong or the study completely wrong.
The study and this post are two different issues. The public would be right. And all it would show is that in one instance out of a few dozen (which they accounted for and explained) the study was correct.
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