I don't need to prove any such thing. As everyone knows who debates, you do not have to prove a negative. Otherwise I can claim you made mad donkey love to a rhinoceros and unless you can prove differently then it must be true.

I'm gonna take a wild stab here. High school? Early college?

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ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

None of the major news ever stated that CBS tried to dismiss the charges and none of them ever announced when the Courts decided to allow it.

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It must be so easy to refute anything by simply calling it a kook story. Every single story I mentioned got exposure except by the US mainstream media. Are you calling these stories false. I provided the evidence for all those news worthy stories. If you cannot dispute these stories then I have proven there is no Liberal Media.
By your standards nothing in the media is true. I could say to you any headline that you present that it is a kook story from a kook news site.
You are not proving a negative. You are supposed to be refuting something I posted. If I posted 20 different links to one story which included mainstream news from other countries would you still call them all kook websites? With your argument nothing would ever get accomplished. If I have a problem with something Fox published then it is up to me or someone else to prove it wrong.

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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts.

This is silly. Here is the surefire way to detect liberal or any other kind of bias:

If a conservative thinks something has liberal bias, it does.

If a liberal thinks something has conservative bias, it does.

By definition neither side can detect bias on its own side, because that looks like "objective truth" to them.

Left out of this taxonomy are things that exhibit no political bias whatsoever.

Anyone believe such a thing exists? I suppose they do in that some things exist totally outside any partisan dimension, like say a history book, but they will still exhibit an ideological orientation that can fairly (if not kindly) displayed as "bias."

My first post on this forum - I hope it is of interest.

BTW, is every post on this forum held for moderators approval, or is that just a newbie's right of passage (which is reasonable) ? Hopefully it's the former, because otherwise participation here would be a lot less satisfying.

So what if I posted a thread that said, osama bin laden was not responsible for 9/11! Would I be right, and would it be up to everyone else to prove me wrong? Or would I be expected to present evidence? If I were to post that with no evidence, everyone on here would expect me to present evidence!

Also, what does age have to do with it? That is what stupid old people say! They are wrong, so they say "how old are you"? "Oh you are younger than me, well I am right then!" "You will see the error of your ways when you get older!" What type of nonsense is that? Either you are well informed and intelligent, or you are not, no amount of years is going to change that!(I am not saying you are not intelligent, I mean generally.)


Lastly, the media is not liberal! If it were, I would be able to find news I like! The major political journalists(if you can call them that) in this country gain prominence by their loudness and their controversiality! If you look at the major political pundits they all match that description! Hannity, check! Oreilly, check! Limbaugh, check! Savage, check! Olberman, check! Matthews, check! Some of the people on air america(whose names I don't know, because I don't listen to it enough), check! The only major political journalist in this country who is in any way thoughtful, and unbiased is tim russert!

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Well, people are clearly watching conservative cable channels. It isn't that it is slanted that way, its that the majority of Americans want to watch it. Let me give you some facts to subdue the bickering that liberals might have towards this:

Tuesday, April 1
25-54 demographic: (L +SD)

Total day: FNC: 262 | CNN: 158 | MSNBC: 104 | HLN: 119

Prime: FNC: 405 | CNN: 302 | MSNBC: 197 | HLN: 174

5pm:
FNC: Election HQ: 276
CNN: Blitzer: 156
MSNBC: Hardball: 145
HLN: Prime: 114

6PM:
FNC: Hume: 405
CNN: Blitzer: 171
MSNBC: 163
HLN: 93

7PM
FNC: Shep: 272
CNN: Dobbs: 210
MSNBC: Hardball: 218
HLN: Beck: 157

8PM:
FNC: O'Reilly: 451
CNN: Brown: 166
MSNBC: Countdown: 340
HLN: Grace: 179

9PM:
FNC: Hannity & Colmes: 465
CNN: Larry King: 420
MSNBC: Abrams: 98
HLN: Beck: 120

10PM:
FNC: Great: 299
CNN: Cooper: 320
Countdown: 154
HLN: 164

11PM:
FNC: O'Reilly: 377
CNN: Cooper 182
MSNBC: Special: 85
HLN: Showbiz: 120

Quarter #1 Results for Cable News Networks:
FNC was the fourth ranked cable network (overall) during the first quarter of 2008 (during prime time), despite not hosting a debate during the time period. CNN, who hosted four highly rated debates, finished #14 while MSNBC came in at #27.

In total day, FNC came in 7th place, compared to CNN (#22) and MSNBC (#30).

Click here to view the full Q1 ranker.

For the month of March, FNC was again in the top 5, finishing fifth place. CNN came in at #22 and MSNBC came in #26.

Source: Nielsen Media Research

As you can see, people clearly like to watch conservative talk shows.

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I never said the media had a certain type of bias. I just said they don't have a liberal bias. I will admit Fox has a bias. If a story goes untold by all major media centers then it is not a bias but tool of control. The media should not be used in such a way. Any and all information should be presented, especially in an age of 24 hour news channels.

Objective truth is to not let a single piece of evidence, testimony, and information withheld from public scrutiny.

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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts.

I have already ended this debate. it would be one thing if the viewers didn't watch conservative news and there was a conservative bias, but that isn't the case. fox news wins every hour of cable news primetime, other than 10pm. people like watching conservative views obviously, so of course the news will want to have that viewpoint when reporting news. people like to hear the truth, not the false liberal "drive-by" rumors that they make up.

am i wrong?

my facts clearly end this debate.

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You just contradicted yourself and you made no attempt to refute any of the issues.
Most people can't think for themselves. They are told what to buy, what to wear, what music to listen to, who to be afraid of, how to fit into the societal norm. They don't question authority, they don't question the government and they believe everything they see or hear by political pundits who would rather yell and insult than actually discuss a real issue with real intelligent people.


Side note: I have yet to meet any Liberal who approves of Alan Colmes. The man is an idiot.

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