There is NO Liberal Media - Page 6

superdude17* · #51 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuatara

You just contradicted yourself and you made no attempt to refute any of the issues.

Wrong. I said that people like watching conservative news, therefore the news is going to report it that way. The news is selling a product, just like everything else in this world. It has to keep viewers in order to get money through advertising. If it has to have a more conservative view to do this, then so be it.

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Most people can't think for themselves. They are told what to buy, what to wear, what music to listen to, who to be afraid of, how to fit into the societal norm. They don't question authority, they don't question the government and they believe everything they see or hear by political pundits who would rather yell and insult than actually discuss a real issue with real intelligent people.

I agree. The Liberal/democrat party doesn't let you do this. Rather than giving you freedoms, they want to take them away and have the government provide every necessary thing for everyone, when it really is up to the individual. Conservative views don't hinder one's ability to make decisions at all, so this argument just seems radical in what I have seen.

Tuatara · #52 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by superdude17*

Wrong. I said that people like watching conservative news, therefore the news is going to report it that way. The news is selling a product, just like everything else in this world. It has to keep viewers in order to get money through advertising. If it has to have a more conservative view to do this, then so be it.

This is the part that you contradicted yourself on.

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Well, people are clearly watching conservative cable channels. It isn't that it is slanted that way, its that the majority of Americans want to watch it.

Not that I agree with what you said but you just reaffirmed that there is no Liberal media bias.

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The Liberal/democrat party doesn't let you do this.

I don't think the democratic party is liberal...maybe on a few minor issues but that can be discussed on a new thread.

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Rather than giving you freedoms, they want to take them away

How so? Explain

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and have the government provide every necessary thing for everyone,

Like what for instance...schools, roads and highways, police and fire...be specific.

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Conservative views don't hinder one's ability to make decisions at all

How can anyone make an informed decision when they don't have all the information?

Blade · #53 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 10:31 PM

UCLA study: Media has liberal bias.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...UCLA-6664.aspx

Ronin-Talgar · #54 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CRIMSON MASK

Becuase more than likely they are fringe stories and conspiracy theories by radicals published on wacky websites? Look at the story about Osama. Osama and al qaueda took credit for 9/11.

Way to not read whats linked. It deals heavily with that video- and that, along with this page http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm , the FBI wanted poster notably lacking any mention of 9/11- they got curious. They didn't then spin a conspiracy theory, they spoke to "Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI". And that quote is from him.

Why are people so quick to write off sources they don't even analyse? If we give a select few the official power of deciding whats true and what isn't, its going to end up being abused.

Tuatara · #55 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin-Talgar

Why are people so quick to write off sources they don't even analyse?

I explained this in post #50.

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Most people can't think for themselves. They are told what to buy, what to wear, what music to listen to, who to be afraid of, how to fit into the societal norm. They don't question authority, they don't question the government and they believe everything they see or hear by political pundits who would rather yell and insult than actually discuss a real issue with real intelligent people.

Tuatara · #56 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade

UCLA study: Media has liberal bias.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla...UCLA-6664.aspx

Look at this everybody. The third conservative in this thread to post what I already mentioned and acknowledged in the first post. They're not even reading the content of the threads anymore. Just read the thread title and throw in your 2 cents.

p-did · #57 (**permalink**) 04-03-2008, 12:16 AM

I guess it's the liberally-biased media that has been letting the GOP off the hook for the greatest scandal in our lifetimes: starting a war, killing thousands of Americans and millions of Iraqis, without any proof of a threat.

Yeah, the media sure leans left (if by leaning left, you mean that they don't hold the GOP accountable for anything, but bash democrats non-stop if they happen to get a blow job).

Common sense: a tool that can be used to see media plays no part in promoting progressive (meaning forward thinking) politicians. They give the same old GOP farts free-pass after free-pass.

And BilyBob, you can post 50 pie charts. But you can't get around the fact that the media has been letting the GOP off easy on the disaster that is Iraq.

BillyBob · #58 (**permalink**) 04-03-2008, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by p-did

And BilyBob, you can post 50 pie charts. But you can't get around the fact that the media has been letting the GOP off easy on the disaster that is Iraq.

What makes you think Iraq is a disaster?

CRIMSON MASK · #59 (**permalink**) 04-03-2008, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuatara

It must be so easy to refute anything by simply calling it a kook story. Every single story I mentioned got exposure except by the US mainstream media. Are you calling these stories false. I provided the evidence for all those news worthy stories. If you cannot dispute these stories then I have proven there is no Liberal Media.
By your standards nothing in the media is true. I could say to you any headline that you present that it is a kook story from a kook news site.
You are not proving a negative. You are supposed to be refuting something I posted. If I posted 20 different links to one story which included mainstream news from other countries would you still call them all kook websites? With your argument nothing would ever get accomplished. If I have a problem with something Fox published then it is up to me or someone else to prove it wrong.

Exposure where? Wacky websites don't count.

CRIMSON MASK · #60 (**permalink**) 04-03-2008, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuatara

Thanks for putting this up. You are only helping prove my assertions. In September of 2007 Dan Rather filed charges in court against CBS.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/blument...n_rather_suit/
http://www.gregpalast.com/dan-crashes-bush-flies-high/
In November 2007 CBS tried to dismiss the charges.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/bu...a95&ei=5087%0A
On January 8th 2008 the courts decided to allow Dan Rather to go on with his suit. Where is the so called liberal media covering this story???

Dan Rather was trying to save his legacy. Anyone can file a lawsuit, doesn't mean it automatically proves anything.

Bottom line-CBS was found to have used poor journalistic principles by it's own independent panel. That panel also determined that CBS used a blind and rigid defense of the piece even after it became apparent that the evidence was fake and the witnesses biased.

CBS fired several producers, apologized publicly, and forced Rather to retire.

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