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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Mike View Post
    If there was a way to flip a government in Syria to be pro US or at least pro Western, I would be all for it. As it is, it seems like the choice is between an anti-American dictatorship or an anti-American Islamist government. I'm doubtful that even a Sunni Islamist regime in Damascus would be interested in joining the US in some sort of common cause in isolating Iran.
    Really? The sunnis and shias hate eachother, I think getting the support of the sunnis against the shias wouldn't be hard at all for the US.

    even if the rebels are islamists, they are still more in line with US interests than the baathists. Perhaps the US is thinking that they can get their support by aiding them and giving them weapons and money, and playing on their hatred for shias.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    Yes, the Tea Party didn't care when Sadaam Hussein gassed Kurds in Iraq in 1987.

    Back then, they didn't know where Iraq was (many of them still don't).

    But when Boy George and Darth Vader told them to care about it fourteen years later, they stomped and cheered for war.

    Now they're back to isolationism.
    So did all your Democrat leaders. Oh, you forgot? Look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NothingSacred View Post
    Why does that mean that WE have to do something? I'm sick of being World Police! Let them die, and if someone has to "do something"... let it be SOMEBODY ELSE! I want to be like Europe or Australia and just STAY OUT OF IT!

    Besides, as the Tea Party reminds us, WE ARE BROKE, we CAN'T AFFORD any more SPENDING. So there is no way that this NEW, unfunded SPENDING PROGRAM should be taken on when we are being told we need to cut spended that WE NEED HERE INSIDE THE USA!
    So we've run out of made up money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NothingSacred View Post
    Lets say each one costs $100K, that's probably 50-100 decent jobs that can be created inside the USA, I'd rather spend it on food stamps for crack jeads than to blow up some Syrian city.
    But the cost of the missile has already been paid for. The weapons platform is also already in existence. So really the total cost of the operation is paying whoever needs to be paid the 5 minutes it takes to press the big red button to make these birds fly.

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    Some of you are worrying about the cost but not really understanding how this all works.

    Any of you know how much money it costs to operate one of those battleships per hour that are carrying these cruise missles? Look it up, it will blow your mind.
    Hell do you know how much it costs to operate pretty much any piece of military hardware for an hour? It's not like those battleships just go home when they aren't sitting in the Mediterranean giving people the finger. They are always out sailing around somewhere costing just as much to operate.

    So them firing a few cruise missles is pennies compared to the grand scheme of things.

    If you are worried about the cost then start campaigning to bring those things back to port and shut them down.
    I am by no means advocating this, but I'm trying to help some of you have a valid argument if you wish to argue about something.

    On a side note isn't it pretty sad when France is backing us up but nobody else is lol....
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    If I truly believed we could we could significantly improve the plight of the Syrian people by intervening I would be all for it. But I don’t believe that. We may make things “different” there, but I have no faith it will be “better”. We suck at the “end game”.
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    Fwiw they average about a million a piece. We launched 160 at Libya.
    The question is not so much one of costs but supply. Some strategists opine our supply has been depleted and not replaced to the point that getting into a protracted war at this time could be devastating.

    While Obama and company claim to not want a long duration event the first people killed by us will be Russians. Unfortunately they just may have something to say about it.

    To put it simply your neighbor owns guns. You walk across the street and pump 3-400 rounds into his house and car. You think your neighbor will just shrug it off and go back to sleep?

    A limited strike on empty buildings and airfields in Syria makes absolutely no sense. Either they plan for regime change and simply don't want to tell us or they're completely insane.
    Quotes from the local liberal racist.

    I could have told you Bundy was a racist the second I laid eyes on him.

    The bottom line, I know a racist when I see one. And Bundy is a racist just by looking at him

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    Maybe the US regime doesn't want to oust Assad, but just degrade his air force and anti-missile system prior to the primary goal of "Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb, Iran."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy Palven View Post
    Maybe the US regime doesn't want to oust Assad, but just degrade his air force and anti-missile system prior to the primary goal of "Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb, Iran."
    That makes more sense than what our leaders are telling us. Provoke Iran in an attempt to get them defending Syria then go full scale crazy on them. Quite a few believe that to be the case, some even champion it openly.
    Quotes from the local liberal racist.

    I could have told you Bundy was a racist the second I laid eyes on him.

    The bottom line, I know a racist when I see one. And Bundy is a racist just by looking at him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Mike View Post
    If there was a way to flip a government in Syria to be pro US or at least pro Western, I would be all for it. As it is, it seems like the choice is between an anti-American dictatorship or an anti-American Islamist government. I'm doubtful that even a Sunni Islamist regime in Damascus would be interested in joining the US in some sort of common cause in isolating Iran.
    Do you consider China, Russia pro US? Theres many countries which arent Pro US, i wonder why Syria can pick their friends like many other countries do. Ive listened to many US politicians talking about putting in pro US leaders, but isnt it about the poor oppressed people?

    I wonder where China gets its resources from. I mean they buy oil at reasonable prices which makes them more than competitive manufacturers - without any war and without needing everyone to be their best pals.
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