Jesus was a leftist. His life was as leftist as anyone could be. He basically taught communism and pacifism.
No, the terms conservative and liberal have changed over the years as society changes. Conservatism means to preserve older values. Liberalism means to change principles as they see fit. It was liberal to be an individualist and split from the oppressive governments then. Today liberals seek to unionize and globalize the planet. American conservatives today, like myself, wish to conserve the constitution at it's earliest form as much as possible and preserve the individualist rights.

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Society is produced by our wants and government by our wickedness ~Thomas Paine

I don't care how many times you people say that, I reject it. Communism can be fascism. The most extreme right ideology is Anarchism.

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Society is produced by our wants and government by our wickedness ~Thomas Paine

I agree with most of that post, except the part about "preserving individualist rights". I feel that conseravtives (at least those who are elected) want to control who can get married, what medicine I'm allowed to take (even if my state legalized it), women's reproductive organs, our phone and internet conversations, and even what type of sex we're allowed to have.

That's the main reason I vote for liberals: they fight for my freedoms while so-call "conservatives" continue to try to take them away.

This is not to say you (a self-proclaimed conservative) support such things. But the politicians who call themselves "conservative" tend to be the ones trying to take away freedom after freedom, until we're left with a police state.

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Actually, low crime, low pollution (and fresh air straight from the Pacific), and high-paying jobs are the key factors that create high property values. Land scarcity plays a factor too, but nobody would be fighting over the scarce land unless crime was low and the best jobs were nearby.

If you ever visited S.F. (the most beautiful city in the nation in my opinion), you would see why it's one of the few place in the nation that was immune to the mortgage crisis (prices continued to go UP!!! S.F.'s economy has been UNSTOPPABLE).

Only with low crime, beautiful views, and the top jobs could a housing market be so stable.

For an example why people are elbowing each other for a home in this "gem of the U.S.", I can see the ocean from my house that is up on a hill, and my sinuses went away since I moved away from the suburbs (I lived in the suburbs, since I could afford my first condo there, that last several years until I could save up to buy a place in the pulse of technological innovation and progress) and near the fresh ocean air.

Further proving the spoils of liberal success, San Francisco is the third most popular tourist destination in the U.S. (NYC and L.A., also controlled by liberals, are #1 and #2).

How many people visited the cities you mentioned compared to S.F., L.A., or N.Y.C.?

It's clearly proven by the above facts: The more liberal the city, the more successful it is.

And on top of that, San Franciscans are very active in helping out the less fortunate, so they can get on their feet, get a job, and become a contributor to society. If Jesus had to pick his favorite city, the open-minded and compassionate folks of San Francisco would make his choice easy.

And with our FIVE SUPER BOWL rings to top off all of that, I couldn't be more proud to be born and raised in the beautiful coastal city.

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Sarah "Barracuda" Palin: 10 Red Flags

Yeah, you are pointing out some things (except for the "reproductive rights") that I don't agree with. Some of them are consistent with religious morals and I suppose it is somewhat conservative to protect religious values that have been prevalent in our society. Maybe that's why I should call myself a libertarian but our constitution really is secular and I feel that many of the issues you mention should be legislated at a state level rather than federally. That is something that many Republicans have abandoned and instead have pushed for broad federal policies.

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Society is produced by our wants and government by our wickedness ~Thomas Paine

When it comes to federal government, I'm right there with you: let the states (on macro issues, like energy and environment regulation), and the cities (on micro issues, like allocation of park and recreation funds and land) decide on the issues that affect our life.

In my opinion, Obama gives us the best chance to be the state and city that we want to be, without federal government getting in the way.

While "Hillary the Micro manager" is likely to meddle more in my state's affairs, and McCain, especially if he gets a conservative VP, will likely continue the same individual-rights violations committed by the Bush administration, Obama is the only hope (at this point) to set our state free.

We love being Americans, but we don't want bureaucrats 3,000 miles away deciding how our majority of our tax dollars to be relegated if they're going to use that money to wage a moral war (or "cultural war" as the late Charlton Heston would say) on the innocent people of our state. In fact, I want a leader that is against us "waging cultural wars" on states that are not interested in fighting a war, but just want to live their lives as they see fit.

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Sarah "Barracuda" Palin: 10 Red Flags

Have any of you considered looking at it from Jesus's perspective? He was in a society that basically ruled people. He was a jew and he had no control over his enviorment. If he had tried to rise against, he would have been struck down.

I proved that wrong with facts. The highest crime rates in the country are all in liberal cities. Detroit, New Orleans, Gary, Oakland, etc. All liberal cities and all high crime rates. And when NYC had one the highest crime rates in the world property values were high. So obviously high crime does not have a large impact on property values when other factors (like lack of choice) are present. The dirtiest cities are also liberal; Detroit, LA, etc. The cleanest cities are conservative (Tampa, SD, SLC, etc).

I lived there for a year and been there many times. It was once a beautiful city and was ruined by liberal policies like checks for homeless. Which not surprisingly resulted in more homeless than soda cans on the streets and aggressive panhandlers on every corner. By the way, SF's economy suffered one of the worst real estate crashes in the country in the early 90's.

As already proven, SF has a high crime rate. So obviously that is wrong.

The conservative air and ocean views in San Diego works just as well. But without the homeless on every corner. By the way, which states in the country are the fastest growing? The red states. 100% of the fastest growing states all are red; Nevada, Florida, Arizona, Wyoming, Georgia, Idaho, Texas, NC and Utah. Yep every single one. And the states losing population? Well they all have a blue tint. Again every single one. 100%. Including your "paradise" California. As well as Michigan, Rhode Island, New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts. So what have we learned, everyone is moving out of blue states and into red ones. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/us...rssnyt&emc=rss

Your data is faulty, Vegas and Orlando rank higher. Here is a list, be sure and note that half the list are conservative areas. I guess, using your logic, proving the spoils of conservative success. http://www.usatourist.com/english/ti...toftheusa.html

Actually the exact opposite was proven using facts. Toursim is split between liberal and conservative. The highest polluted cities? Liberal. The highest crime cities? Liberal. The lowest crime cities? Conservative. The states people are moving away from? 100% liberal. The states those people are moving to? 100% conservative.

Their "helpfulness" is why they have panhandlers and homeless on every corner. Jesus would rank SFO last because he believed God helps those who help themselves. He was against handouts without work, which is exactly what SF provides. He would have picked NYC under Giuliani (conservative) because welfare came with work requirements. Just like it did when he preached.

You can have it, I left for a reason. And it wasn't because of its high quality lifestyle. Liberals ruined what was once a beautiful city. As they have most other big cities like Oakland, Detroit, New Orleans and NYC before a conservative took it back.

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All you need to know about the energy crisis:
ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.

Jesus spoke at many levels. If you understand what exactly he was responding to and look at the entirety of his written word, you should be able to see that Jesus never said we had to give up all possessions and take vows of poverty to get to heaven. He was simply pointing out that Heaven is not something that this person could buy or trade or even seek after at all but something that is here and now if the person could see it. The person's obsession with money and possessions, in this case, is what prevented from seeing this truth, hence the words that Jesus spoke.

But, he certainly was not a socialist and certainly did not say everyone had to give up all wealth to go to heaven. It was exactly this kind of "follow the numbers/rules to get to heaven nonsense" that Jesus brought relief from.

But, most of Jesus' parables can be interpreted on multiple levels, and often/usually all the perspectives have their own truth. But, to truly understand Jesus and accept the gift of peace he gave, one must understand that he was a Zen Master.

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Qur'an:8:39 Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.
Qur'an:8:67 It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land.
Qur'an 8:12 I will terrorize the unbelievers...Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

It's not to say that communism cannot be oppressive, in fact, it usually is but fascism is the extreme opposite from communism. There can be totalitarian communism which is what most people think when they think of communism.

As for anarchy, personally, I don't consider that even on the spectrum. For me it falls under the category of no government.

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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
-Albert Einstein
"One man with courage is a majority"
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