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Old 04-07-2008, 12:25 PM
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by the way, your linked article DOES NOT SAY WHAT YOU SUGGEST IT SAYS.

Here is what it actually says:

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Saying the city has done all it can to stop the flow of illegal guns, Kelly called for national law-enforcement agencies to step up to the plate.
In this instance, Kelly is asking for federal assistance, specifically from the ATF, who grants licenses to firearms dealers and is responsible for investigating illegal firearms trafficking to get guns off of the street.

Most guns get onto the street, and into the hands of criminals, not through thefts, but through straw purchases and corrupt gun dealers. The NRA has NEVER opposed (and in fact, has supported) measure to eliminate those problems.

Your posts smack of thinking you know what you're talking about, while not having an actual clue.
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Hahaha...

"Unsatisfied by your husband physically? Maybe he'll be more of a man with a gun he purchased without a background check!"
Americans like guns.

John Wayne

Rambo

Scarface

It symbolizes power.

It is what it is.

It's in our psyche as a culture.

You blame Charlton Heston on something that has been ingrained in us since the early 1700's when settlers had flintlocks.

The guy or gal with the gun has the power over Nature and over others.

It's ingrained in our DNA.
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Anyone else find an ironic contradiction in these two statements?

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The man was crazy.
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he's a symbol of the decline of critical discourse in this country, in favor of meaningless, glossy, rhetoric.
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Indeed, Reb.
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Do more research, please.
I hadn't read that article; It should be pointed out that I think for myself.

And, it's certainly a fact that Florida's gun-laws are some of the least restrictive.

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Florida gun stores impose no waiting period or limit on the number of assault weapons people can buy in a single day. Handgun buyers who have a state concealed weapon permit can take home a gun purchase immediately. Those without a permit must wait three days.

There are no limits on private sales at gun shows.


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What you don't mention:

*A concealed carry permit here requires a background check, and the person purchasing the weapon CANNOT have a criminal history.
*These bulk sales are reported on TO THE ATF by federal law.

Furthermore, as stated, the article you linked to did not support your points.

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Really? Even though you are parroting the standard liberal pablum on this subject?
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Your posts smack of thinking you know what you're talking about, while not having an actual clue.
And you've demonstrated your clear lack of reason with your strawman arguments, and your incredibly miniscule understanding of your own state's gun laws.

Commissioner Kelly has been clear: the majority of guns that are illegal in this city were purchased out of state at gun shows, and corrupt dealers.

And, he's backed up by facts:

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/pd...80227_guns.pdf

Check out page 12.
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*page not found*

Heh. By the way, have I mentioned that I enjoy it when you get your big girl panties all in a wad?
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Furthermore, as stated, the article you linked to did not support your points.
It stated my point exactly.
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The trade exists largely because Puerto Rico has some of the strictest gun laws in the United States. On the island, for instance, gun owners must be able to account for every bullet they buy if questioned by police. At the same time, Florida laws are some of the nation's least restrictive.

Moreover, AGAIN:
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Florida gun stores impose no waiting period or limit on the number of assault weapons people can buy in a single day. Handgun buyers who have a state concealed weapon permit can take home a gun purchase immediately. Those without a permit must wait three days.

There are no limits on private sales at gun shows.

This is what I think should change.

This is what the NRA fights for.
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[quote=catzmeow;483756]*page not found*
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Whoops. I had to type the link, and I messed it up...

There's a link to it, here:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...e-in-new-york/

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Heh. By the way, have I mentioned that I enjoy it when you get your big girl panties all in a wad?

I'm glad you're getting enjoyment from being bested.

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