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Words From History:

“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction...” — Ted Kennedy (September 27, 2002)


"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." - Ronald Reagan.

Yes there is a problem with it. It's been going on since the 30's and there are still poor people. If poor people are not a problem, then there would be no welfare, and since there are still poor people, welfare has not worked. It's idiocy to repeat what does not work.

Corruption comes easly whenever money is involved.

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I agree. The problem with welfare and social programs is people take advantage of them and don't use them for their real purpose: Temporary assistance to help someone get on their feet. Helping someone get on their feet should in turn allow them to contribute more to society and themselves in the long run.

But when someone starts living off of the system just for sake of being lazy, I have no sympathy and I have no problem "cutting them off". Help the wounded, cut off the leaches. The great question in the application of this idea is how do you tell the difference between someone who is using the assistance for its purpose and someone who is just being lazy. I disagree with enforcement practices that risk leaving behind people who need the system just so some leaches can't take advantage for the same reason we let some criminals go to avoid (as best is possable) putting innocent people in prison.... Innocent until proven guilty.

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Why do you suppose this is? Personally, I think poverty comes from 4 places.

1. People just being plain lazy. I have no problem cutting them off and not including them in the "poverty" statistic, just the lazy statistic.

2. Unequal playing field, the "learning curve" and the fact that crap just happens (your medical bill, your sister's huge medical bill, meteorite hits your house, and the like)

3. Social problems, where people just feel like they can't escape and take up a life of crime instead because its what their father did, their friends did, what your friends fathers did, and what you have to do to survive.

4. Lack of opportunity... This could come from a change in the economy (like how our economy is in a recession right now) or a change in industry where people who have done one thing all their lives suddenly became replaced by a machine or outsourced.

I think social programs should be directed at correcting 2,3 and some of 4 above. It's the responsibility of the government in general to look after the economy which is more then just a social program. But also, perhaps training for those effected by outsourcing or technological changes in the industry.

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Where welfare cures none of those AND increases the chances of #1, my idea actually helps to solve problem #3.

You are conflating welfare with poverty. They are two related but different discussions.

Don't be so picky if you know what I mean.

You obviously have not seen the many instances of blatant abuse of social welfare by the people who were granted it. Subsidized housing leads to individuals who choose to meet the criteria of more subsidized housing like their parent(s), and in most cases mother. The tax credit for children resulted in individuals having more kids from just about anyone to boost their check. If you look at the statistics for the Earned Income Tax Credit, it is proven that people who use this program tend to adjust their work hours so they make maximum gain from the system. These people would either work the same number of hours or cut back for larger tax credits and more free time on their hands. If that doesn't spell abuse, I don't know what does.

The welfare system has been failing for some time now.

The only reason this discussion is happening and this problem still exists, it that we've not had the fortitude to do what must be done to resolve the problem once and for all. If we would stop piddling around with government assistance, and complete our transition to centrally dispersed incomes and jobs, this problem would dry up for good.

We all want to solve this problem, but get cold feet as we try to hold on to archaic notions of liberty and freedom that actually haven't existed for many decades. Democrat leaders know the truth and work toward our completion as a society by fighting conservatism and capitalism..........the obstacles to social progress.