"centrally dispersed income and jobs"? in other words, communism? what do you mean?

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This forum does not need a communist troll. Go away. Seriously, you should be banned. Communism makes everyone equally poor.

You people simply MUST get over your squeemishness about the term "communism." What do you think social security, medicare, universal healthcare, environmental regulation, and all the other government provided benefits come from? Thankfully, Obama and Hillary aren't afraid of moving things along with progressive policies.

List of failed policies that do not work:

Social Security
Medicare
Universal Healthcare (assuming you do not want the quality to go down or pay for leeches)

So your argument is the social programs which are destined to be drastically reformed if not removed entirely because they are not effective.

There is a difference between social programs and regulation (many of which have problems) and an entire economy based off of and ran by the government.

I'm some where in between capitalism and socialism. I believe people should be rewarded for their work in proportion to their contributions, but I also believe we should maintain certain minimum standards for people to make sure we don't leave good people behind... Be fair in other words. Pure communism, just like pure capitalism, seems to lead to situations that just aren’t fair or right.

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Socialism will probably exist far in the future if many of the world's major problems such as energy and limited resources are solved. I am in no way opposed to distribution of wealth at that point in time. The problem is that many liberals, poor, etc see the wealth of people who have worked hard and done things right, and immediately think that if the wealth was shared the status quo would continue. The problem is that attaining wealth is not a walk in the park like most people think, and I don't see how people think every single lifestyle while a financially poor decision or not, should be supported by society in general. I work hard to do things right. Why should I have to bail out those who choose not to do so?

lol so basically socialism is never going to be a good idea. We would need robots to do everything for us in order for it to work.

Either way, your answer is to take money out of my pocket and give it to someone else. How exactly is this fair?

The biggest problem with Welfare is that it absolves fathers from having to take responsibility for their own offspring. My own father, left us when I was 4, and for a time my Mom did have to get on Government Assistance for help. The few times that I asked my father for money to buy clothes or new shoes (since my shoes were getting holes in them - not too much fun in the NE with Snow) he would say things like, Well Welfare is giving your mother money, so ask her. Welfare needs to be done the way it is here in Florida, they give the women the assistance they need, then they track down the fathers and make them pay.

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The only thing I have against this is it throws everyone in one bucket. Certianly not every poor person got there because they did something unreasonably stupid or for choice. Certainly every wealthy person did not get there because they worked harder than everyone else to get there.

I believe in social programs because not everyone is given a fair start from their parents and schooling, not everyone is naturally business oriented like you have to be to make it anywhere in a capitalistic society, and sometimes people just run into bad luck. I believe in giving others a fair shot in the hope they would do the same for me.

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Lol, I don't necessarily disagree with what you have to say in the second part. But again, like I have said before, we can't put everyone in the same bucket. You are speaking from your own life experiences, and in that scenario, it makes sense. I don't think your scenario speaks for every person that has gotten support from welfare.

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