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Old 04-11-2008, 06:06 AM
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so the its a big army that defends poor people big woop still a big army
And who attaked the US in last 60 years????No army in the world defends the poor.But they all defend the rich!!!!
Just look at the US generals backround.They all coime from rich familys.But the regular G.I and marines from POOR!!!!

By the way US army is not big.But the military budget is.
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The next time you want health care head to Cuba.

They do not get any preventative care. Only the elite get full coverage and even Castro went to outside sources for his health care.
I don't see many Americans going to Cuba or anyplace else for their health care.

But Cleveland has a Hospital build and run just for foreigners who come there for heart treatments.


The superiority of socialized health care is that everyone gets less than average care. They all have to wait in lines for standard care and tests.

How many MRI machines does Cuba have?
I know of 6 in my city. I can have an MRI scan done today with an hours wait. One was giving free total body scans last year.
You miss the point.The US is the strongest and riches country in the world.But the on health scale on the 39 place.Does that bother you????
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And who attaked the US in last 60 years????No army in the world defends the poor.But they all defend the rich!!!!
Just look at the US generals backround.They all coime from rich familys.But the regular G.I and marines from POOR!!!!

By the way US army is not big.But the military budget is.
Not exeptionaly big but weve got awsome jets! And wicked grenade launchers! Look at iraq 4,000 americans by over 100,000 iraqis there working up a pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) good kill ratio
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You miss the point.The US is the strongest and riches country in the world.But the on health scale on the 39 place.Does that bother you????
And exactly how do they come up with the scale? I have never had to wait or had subpar healthcare.

I'm not sure where you guys get the idea that its the job of the federal government to provide health care for all Americans, guess what its not.

The federal government spend way to much money on programs and benefits it has no buisness being involved in.
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And exactly how do they come up with the scale? I have never had to wait or had subpar healthcare.

I'm not sure where you guys get the idea that its the job of the federal government to provide health care for all Americans, guess what its not.

The federal government spend way to much money on programs and benefits it has no buisness being involved in.

It is not smart to talk that way. Actually if you are average American citizen, if not(the rich one)than you can blaber all you want.
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You miss the point.The US is the strongest and riches country in the world.But the on health scale on the 39 place.Does that bother you????
This list seems to come with the bias that socialized = better. Which is a total farse. My family nor I have ever existed in any sect that would be refered to as rich, and at times in my childhood some may have actually thought of us as poor. However, I've never once been without healthcare or the medical care that I needed or wanted.

Social medicine means the same substandard care for everyone. I'm real sick of hearing people whine about their inability to provide healthcare for themselves. Did I miss something, or isn't your health and health care your responsibility. At what point in our hisotry did we decide that it is no longer our obligation to look out for our own health, but instead it's the mommy's states responsibility to make sure that all of us made room in our budgets for health insurance.

The root of this problem is people are no longer willing to take responsibility for their own needs and have been coddled by the government schools to believe that it's uncle sams obligation to provide them with all that they need.
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Where are all the Americans who are flocking to Costa Rica, because of their (supposed) better health care?

That list is a subjective piece of garbage.
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You did not pay attention to the Health care!!!!That is why US is no. power in the world!!!!! Cuba is almost beater the US!!!
Why are Americans not emigrating out of the US in droves if this is such a big issue? I don't even see poor people emigrating.

Your list is based on the W.H.O.'s opinion. Thats it. Maybe American opinion differs.

Odd that no one is traveling to Cuba for health care eh?


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I agree absolutely. But to have the biggest military budget in the world, you have to cut down the health care budget and social budget first.
Not necessarily. If our military budget was half of what it is now, we would still have the largest military in the world.



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That makes all the people the same.THE POOR PEOPLE!!!
So why aren't poor people fleeing to Canada?


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By the way US army is not big.
Compared to who? The only nation with a larger standing army in personnel is China. And no army has more equipment.



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You miss the point.The US is the strongest and riches country in the world.But the on health scale on the 39 place.Does that bother you????
Why should it?



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And exactly how do they come up with the scale? I have never had to wait or had subpar healthcare.
Same here. I am definitely not rich, and I don't have a problem getting decent health care. I certainly would not want what they have in Cuba.



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It is not smart to talk that way. Actually if you are average American citizen, if not(the rich one)than you can blaber all you want.
WTF are you talking about? I am middle class average American, the Federal Government has no buisness spending my tax dollars to create a nanny state. You are what you make of yourself in the US, if you are a failure its your own fault.
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Why are Americans not emigrating out of the US in droves if this is such a big issue? I don't even see poor people emigrating.

Your list is based on the W.H.O.'s opinion. Thats it. Maybe American opinion differs.

Odd that no one is traveling to Cuba for health care eh?



Not necessarily. If our military budget was half of what it is now, we would still have the largest military in the world.




So why aren't poor people fleeing to Canada?



Compared to who? The only nation with a larger standing army in personnel is China. And no army has more equipment.




Why should it?




Same here. I am definitely not rich, and I don't have a problem getting decent health care. I certainly would not want what they have in Cuba.




I am average American citizen.
How much does the appendix surgery cost in the USA?
The US citizens are emigrating to Canada(according to Michael Moor films).And it is easy to say why aren’t poor people emigrating to Canada. You do know you need money to emigrate. And you need to have job in that place you are emigrating. It is wary difficult to emigrate!!!
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