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Old 04-10-2008, 06:55 PM
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He is? And I was gonna vote for him! Thanks for letting me know that, I almost made a big mistake!
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yeah, hes a racist. as a child, he went to court to emancipate himself from his white mother because he hated her skin so much; and he threw away all his michael jackson cds. now hes running for president in a predominantly white country so he can drop atom bombs on it. once hes done he will move back to kenya, where he can join with hitler, bin laden, ahmadinejad and kim jong il, to start the united evil nations.

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yeah, hes a racist. as a child, he went to court to emancipate himself from his white mother because he hated her skin so much; and he threw away all his michael jackson cds. now hes running for president in a predominantly white country so he can drop atom bombs on it. once hes done he will move back to kenya, where he can join with hitler, bin laden, ahmadinejad and kim jong il, to start the united evil nations.
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There's no strawman in the ignorance description.

Offensive comments are, by the very word itself, defined by whether or not people are offended.

If you don't know that your black neighbor may take a offense if you call her children monkeys while they play in their yard, you're might have some 'splainin' to do, and that's because of your own insensitivity.

I totally agree that if you make a statement that is taken out of context, you have the right to stand up for yourself.

But the court of public opinion isn't fair; and for you to blame the offended party for the uproar over offensive comments is like blaming the jury at a trial.

Flawed as it may be...
The summary would be I believe in context and intent and you do not. You believe cool always refers to temperature, neat always refers to tidiness, and apparently monkeys always refers to blacks. Me, I believe the context (aka intent) is what is important. I don't know about you, but I have one personality. One of my best friends is black, I talk to him like my white friends. I don't talk to him and think "ok I'm speaking with a black person, time to put my different face on." I talk to them as people, not black people. Apparently you have a different belief, you think people should put on their white hat and their black hat. If anything, that makes anyone who holds that belief bigoted. Instead of talking to people, they should remember they're talking to black people. Sure sounds bigoted to me.
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I have to agree with Reb here, calling kids monkeys when they're hanging from trees is not racist. In fact, what makes you think all monkeys are black?


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hahaha. McCain was booed at CPAC. Try again.

Why don't Republicans bring their message to minorities?
R's have been booed at NAACP and they have brought their message. Per yourl link, that comment about the past tactics were made by R's at the NAACP convention.

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It's exactly the same. Neither term or phrase or infers all. It was a truncated quote from the source I retrieved it from.

It should not be taken to say "all."
It is nowehere near the same. Why did you decide to edit it? Hmmm? The exact quote wasn't good enough huh? Do you always remove words from quotes you post or was this the first? If it doesn't matter why did you feel it necessary to actually go out of your way and remove a word from the quote and instead of post verbatim like everyone else does? Feel free to answer. Rhetorical of course...because it doesn't mean the same. But feel free to explain why you decided to remove a word from the quote.

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What the ad displays, is what you're claiming: ignorance. Apparently, the makers of the ad weren't aware that "ho's" was offensive, or that the rest of the dialogue is rather derrogatory.d

And, to you, that's ok, they were ignorant of it's offensive nature.
No, it's racist in nature because it was intended to deal with race. Unlike the monkey comment which was not intended as a racial comment. Notice the difference? One has intent to comment on race and the other does not. And this is your ad? One person? There were more than that in Atlanta when they race baited an election by claiming if the R's won then blacks would have dogs sicked on them like the 60's.

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I disagree: it's offensive whether you know it or not.
This thread proves you wrong. Either intent matters (since she wasn't fired) or he has a racist on his staff, is a hypocrite and you haven't called him on it.
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Yep exactly, thanks for conceding the point.

Concession? If you say something that sounds bigoted, you get labeled a bigot.
That's not left-wingers, either, my friend.



Or a rightwing group, depending on the subject's affiliation.

And, you just have to be associated with somebody who said something that sounded bigoted to be called such, to that group.

If it's a fallacy to call somebody a bigot who says something that could be interpretted as bigotry, it's doubly fallacious to impugn somebody they're associated with because of the comments...

Spin away.

The existance of nimrods. Would you like to add anything?
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