A partial list of conservative principles, as I see them:

1. Conservatives believe in the rule of law - the idea that law should be written down and adhered to, a notion stated by Hammurabi thousands of years ago - that law shouldn't be invented on the fly by persons in power.

2. Conservatives believe in capitalism within a democratic polity, as the combination that has generated huge wealth and lifted up the lives of people everywhere it's been tried.

3. Conservatives believe in a color-blind society, that the law should be no respecter of races, that the law shouldn't be a vehicle for favoring one race over another.

4. Conservatives believe that measured, assimilatable, legal immigration has made this country great.

5. Conservatives believe in a strong defense, because history has shown a million times over that there are many people who can only be deterred by the business end of a gun.

6. Conservatives believe that as long as a person doesn't harm or infringe on the rights of another person, and obeys just laws, he should be allowed to live his life as he pleases.

7. Conservatives believe that when and where an individual practices his religion is absolutely none of the government's business.

8. Conservatives believe that only individuals, not groups, have rights.

9. Conservatives believe that justice consists of allocating individuals their merited rewards or penalties.

10. Conservatives believe that no non-democratic regime has the right to exist.

11. Conservatives believe that it is a moral imperative to help the helpless and truely in need.

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Nobody speaks for me, but if I had to choose it be Coulter.

Reagan was amazing before he became President.

Secure the borders. No amnesty at all. And no national ID card either.

Get rid of it. It perpetuates racism.

Get rid of it gradually to ease the dependence.

Let young people opt out of it and eventually phase it out as well.

I can flip on this, but I usually lean for keeping it legalized.

Simple. Get out.

Return to a foreign policy of non-interventionist. Let the interventionist sit out for fifty years and we'll see how much better the world is.

I don't believe in regulation on a person's right to self-defense.

Not an issue at all. People can live as they want to.

As small as delegated by the US Constitution.

Get rid of the income tax and most other taxes.

They both do - to an extent.
I do not totally agree with ANY one person.
RUSH: get's out there a bit too much at times.
ANN COULTER: is a bit more angry - like me.

Reagan was great!
However; I was also a fan of President Nixon.

Bush is a Fiscal Liberal

1. Immigration - It is NOT a right - it is a privilege!
2. Affiramtive action - has enabled "JUST US" and taken away JUSTICE!
3. Welfare - It is NOT a Birth Given Right!
4. Social Security - is a supplement - not a sustainable wage
5. Abortion - REDICULOUS! Conservatives trying to save the life of the enemies future forces
   after all ... It's just liberals trying to kill off future liberals
6. Iraq - comparable to pulling the weeds out of the lawn - get rid of the weeds and you WILL HAVE A LUSH LAWN!
7. Foreign policy in general - just the money we give to middle eastern countries can pay off the debt in quick order
8. Gun control - I control my fire arms just fine ... teach a YOUNG child what it can do and they will remember.
9. The homosexers
10. Just how small a government? - government needs to pay closer attention to international - had Clinton done so - we would NOT have lost the Twin Towers.
11. Just how few taxes? - just tax an item when it sells - not when people make a buck! That may encourage more people to save for retirement.

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Arrest and deport all illegals. Build a fence and man it with machine gun carrying guards with orders to 'shoot to kill'.



One of the dumbest ideas ever. The Free enterprise system must be allowed to function without the government interfering. A private business should be able to hire and fire any employee it chooses and for any or no reason.


Completely eliminate federal welfare and leave it up to local communities to decide if any person has needs and what they can do to help.





OK, Affirmative Action is the second dumbest idea ever. This one is the dumbest. Scrap the SS system and if Americans are too stupid to invest in their own future, they can work till they die or starve.



Killing babies is wrong.


Glad we went, wish we killed Saddam ourselves, hope we stay for decades....or longer.


We are wimpy when it comes to foreign policy. We should resign from the United Nations, tell the rest of the world that we will do whatever is in our own best interests ALWAYS and they need to be prepared to face the consequences if they do anything contrary to that.



There should be no laws concerning gun ownership for US citizens and stiff penalties for crimes committed with a gun.



Disgusting, vile, repugnant, perverted lifestyle.


Big enough to manage the worlds greatest military and small enough to overthrow in a Revolution. Eliminate the federal Public School system and leave education up to the parents and local communities.


NO Income Tax.




Drug dealers, rapists, pedophiles, kidnappers and murderers should be executed.

All executions should be carried out within an hour of the guilty verdict. Forget 'lethal injection', just put a bullet in their head, toss the body in an incinerator and say 'Next'.

BB I love you when you "talk" Dirty

Wait, is that one not a catzmeow edit?

Now for you guys is the states rights thing an extension of the dislike of progressive taxation thing? I.e. you're understand that some entity needs taxes to do a number of government functions. However you want your tax money to stay as close as possible for better local schools, roads, etc etc. Well, presuming none of you are living in the bad part of town.

In my quest for forum power I will use anyone, I take my lead from Spanky

I speak for me... Although I tend to agree with both of your examples, most if not all o the time... Well more so with Coulter than Rush; Rush tends to feel that there is hope for moderates... Niether Coulter nor I do... I generlly feel that if you're smart enough to get it; you will.

There have been some great Conservative Presidents.. Reagan being the best example of the 20th century; Lincoln and John Adams come to mind in the 19th and of course the original GW in the 18th...

Next I'm wondering about what you're ideal position on a number of the issues would be. But more importantly what is the most moderate postion that would make you "happy". I.e. you certainly favor cutting taxes. Maybe you would ideally want the only tax to be a sales tax on condoms, rap music, and newspapers. Ok. But how much of just a "regular" Bush type tax cut would keep you "happy" with a candidate.

Anyway, Issues.

Immigration: For it.
Affiramtive action: Against
Welfare etc: Against
Social Security: Against it
Abortion: Against
Iraq: If by "Iraq" you mean the war in which the US pursues Islamic terrorists and those which promoted their interests... I'm all for it.
Foreign policy in general: For it... except where leftists are placed in positions representing the interests of Americans.
Gun control: Against...
The homosexers: Not even CLOSE! But to be fair I'm against aything which seeks to destroy positive cultural thresholds...
Just how small a government? Hmmm lets see... I'm for the size laid out in the US Constitution...
Just how few taxes? I'd say 10% on income would be just about right...

Americanism (US Conservativism) isn't long division sport; it's nothing more than the observation, practice and defense of the principles laid out by the Framers... Wherein immutable principle is set against circumstances far more desperate than that which we've known since; they didn't fail then and they've never failed anywhere or at any time which they've been practiced.

Fine as long as the law is correct. But forms of punishment should be refined. For the most part, we deal with criminals the same way as we did 200 years ago, yet our understanding of crime and technology has progressed vastly. The only reason no politician will change it is that they're scared that they might make it worse (and loose their job), so for them it's better for it to remain stagnant.

Agreed, capitalism is a good thing, maybe a few laws to prevent blatant exploitation of workers but otherwise it's the best system.

No one with a brain can argue with that.

Again, yes.

Yes, no question, also a strong (dominant) economy is a good defense.

Yes.

Yes.

Several individuals make a group, if everyone has the same rights, then they have the same rights as a group.

Yes, this is logic more than anything.

Depends, it's up to the people of that country to sort it out unless there is a very real immediate threat to us. We won our own freedom so can they. Although we should try to persuade the regime to change its way if possible.

Doesn't everyone sane?

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