The same thing that has been done throughout history Crimson, you give up some of your power over yourself, and in turn receive some small power over everyone else. And as has been demostrated, it works. That I need to argue that point is laughable.

And sepeartion of powers is not an new idea, and it has old, effective solutions. Not that you've probably read my relevant postson the matter here.

Wait till the democratic governments move closer togetehr, and collectively raise the level of democracy in the world. You'll be able to change issues of human rights and economic disparity and waste by arguing with someone, instead of having to invade their country. Eventually, you'll have allies not just in some sections of the world, but in all the world, and you'll not fear war, nor spend the wealth nor bones it demands.

Its the final, logical step in unity and governance.

Well, Ron..........you have a lot in common with our resident high-schooler, "frodly." I guess you two can giggle together over what you think I believe. But, the glaring and inarguable truth here is that neither of you can disagree with me philosophically. Do you suppose that means something?

Regardless of your opinions of my motivation, I consider you both to be allies in our revolution against American tradition, national pride, and selfish individualism. Whatever you think of me, our goals are the same.

I'm gonna have to disagree with a 'world government' idea because humanity was not put on this earth to be governed. Yes war is bad, and if it could wholly be avoided that would be fantastic. However take a look at the governments around the world, given enough time and opportunity they become more and more corrupt and further disconnected from the populace which they supposedly represent. Having a grand United States of the World would likely create an oppressive regime that while trying to represent everyone ends up representing no one.

Furthermore, I believe strongly in sovereignty, and the freedom to do the things that work to our best interest. When you broaden the range of those represented, representing them becomes impossible. Moreover, do you really think it would be wise to allow communist nations to chime in on the on goings of free market economies. What about theocracies, should they have a voice in nations that are secular?

This bringing together of the world has been tried and will continue to be tried because the idea is noble, however we can take one look at the UN and see how difficult it is to create a true meeting of global minds. We created the United Nations and fund it to a far greater extent than any other nation, and yet it does nothing but provide a forum for nations that would wipe us off the map if they had the ability.

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I see now that the will to freedom in humans is too strong to feel like they are being ruled by a foreign power, but that is not what I propose. I think that every country will be able to have it's own representative equal to all the others. Yes, this is kind of like the United Nations, but this could be on a much bigger scale. In spite of the fact that it is supposed to be equal, I think many governments might not agree with the decisions made by this goverment, and might even wage wars on other countries, which is the biggest thing this government would try to prevent. So, should this goverment have a supreme power to alienate other governments and even wage war on the ones that disobey? Perhaps, instead of a government it should be called a Hegemony. I just that my fellow humans' nature isnt that bent on war, that it would bite the hand that gives it peace.

Your abandonment of democracy and willingness to cheer liars is room enough for disagreement. Besides I'm not out-and-out socialist as you appear to be, so I draw little meaning from our similarities. I relevance to this discussion, your navigation would lead to corruption, and the consequent instability and fracture of any world state.

Giggle eh? Sounds like a plan.

To an extent.

We're already being governed, just ineffectually. I'd disagree with your assesmnet about the inevitability of corruption- our democracies are quite stable, and any means of guarding against them lies not in maintaining states to be enemies and therefore some kind of balwark, but in the checks and balances that exist within themselves- certainly they can be subverted, but it takes time and a lazy electorate, both of which I feel are diminishing.

If its to be a global democracy no, theocrats wouldn't be able to move past their global restrictions that they have now- their citizens wouldn't be able to participate, as their democratic voice is muffled. Theres a powerful democratising force there imo. Communism isn't a governing type so its not exactly relevant, though I note that that scenario is already occuring in the form of China.

Besides, its not so much that other countries would have a vast voice over how life is in any given country, its that global issues recieve a global solutions, as the nation, state and local levels have their corresponding influence. They'll be a blurring of lines, as there is now, but that is a small and managable problem compared to the solutions that globaal governance offers.

I'd note that the UN also allows the Big 5 a powerful coercive and persuasive tool in the current form of global governance, does much good in the world and has been a successful forum in many ways- if nothing else it gave the rest of the world, notably your democratic allies, a chance to express our dismay at 9/11...if it helps, I don't want to wipe you off the face of the map, even had we the means.

Also its not very democratic- as my goal would be. John McCain mentioned a League of Democracies as another supranational body, seeems to me like a good idea.

Why do people need to be ruled?

"The masses have proven themselves unworthy of exercising good judgement and making good decisions, whether concerning their education, their healthcare, their retirement, or the environment.........so they must be ruled by strong leadership that is immune from retribution."-KOD

I'd rather die.

There are barbaric countries out there that would implement some of the warpest policies you could think of.

Your world view is cute and smiley and very naive. There will never be that kind of world unity. There will always be monsters that want to saw your head off becuase you dared doodled a cartoon or something.

I think there's a reason you're not president.