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Hi, Im relatively new to this forum, and I would like to voice a strong opinion of mine. I think the only way to ever end war, and prevent the nukes from ever flying again, is a system of world government.
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I agree actually.
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Now just because I said that dont say "Ugh, that'll never happen"
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It wont happen in the foreseeable future. Certainly not until the world has been completely democratized.
I think it is way premature. It wont happen for centuries at least.
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Government is almost impossible to not be corrupt. If you keep it limited though, the capability of corruption minimizes.
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Good...then we'll do that with the world government as well.
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The masses have proven themselves unworthy of exercising good judgement and making good decisions, whether concerning their education, their healthcare, their retirement, or the environment.........so they must be ruled by strong leadership that is immune from retribution.
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Strong leadership that that is immune from retribution has proven itself incapable of resisting corruption. For that reason, we cannot allow rulers to remain out of the control of the masses.
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Then, we agree that America needs to abandon outdated ideals of freedom and conform to the modern world socialistic system. So why do you cling to the old romantic dreamer's ideas about democracy?
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Because they are superior to the alternatives. The most powerful, most advanced, and wealthiest nation in history is not socialist...or a dictatorship...or an oligarchy. Empirical evidence proves that democracy is superior to all other political ideologies.
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As I pointed out before, the masses aren't qualified to make their own decisions
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Your opinion is insufficient evidence of that.
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The majority/mob is not always right. This is why we have the Bill of Rights--to protect us in the case that we find ourselves in the oppressed minority.
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The Bill of Rights are just Amendments...they have no special powers than any other Amendment has. And, like other Amendments, they can be superseded. We already did that twice, remember?
There is no law in our system that cannot be changed if there is enough support for it. None.
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But even then, do people have the right to remain ignorant?
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Yes. Because not all information has equal value. And what you personally consider important, may not be that important to someone else.
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How is it right for someone to have the same voting rights as I do when they remain ignorant by choice?
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Because your view of their "ignorance" is just an opinion. You yourself probably dont give all information equal value.
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And yet it would violate an individual's personal rights somehow to force education, or my interpretation of education, on that person. I am at a loss of what to substitute.
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I'm not. The answer is "choice".
Thats the whole point of freedom.
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Get Out OF Bed With Israel. problem solved
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For the Islamofacists, yes. But I am not interested in solving their problems. In fact, I'd like to create more for them.
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I wouldn't consider myself "enslaved" by free healthcare, free education, equal income, and a green environment.
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None of those things would mean you are enslaved. I agree.
The fact that you would have no say in them is why you would be enslaved.
And technically speaking, none of it would really be free. You would just pay for it in other ways.
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Only masses ruled objectively can be assured of these things.
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No human being is capable of such objectivity. Therefore, your government cannot work.
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While you're at it, keep believing that world-wide planning and control has been tried before.
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And failed. Non-democracies have been declining, not increasing.
By contrast, democracy has been
spreading for the last few centuries.
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Your explanation here describes no real existing society and ignores the success of the most consistent and tenacious example of socialism today..............Cuba. When they finally have American conservatives/capitalists off their backs, they can apply the same universal controls over incomes, living quarters, and the environment that they currently have with their healthcare system.
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So you admit that Cuba is incapable of competing with us under their current system. Good. We agree.
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The Soviets had a good thing going for a long time..........they just rarely had the proper leadership to make the decisions for the masses.
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Where are they now? Nature does not recognize excuses.
And the Soviets were not around that long...America is a young nation, and even we have existed far longer than the Soviets did.
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Look at all republics throughout time and one in particular comes to mind...Rome before it became an empire...a republic ruled by the rich...does that not describe the current government in the United States?
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No, it does not. Because the rich cannot override the votes of the non-rich. And the non-rich outnumber the rich by a wide margin.
The Rich do not have any really power under our system. They have the same vote as anyone else.
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If a government is for the people by the people shouldn't the people's interest come first before everything else?
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Who gets to define what the Peoples' interests are?