They're bitter because the can't make it in the free market.

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847

Please tell me what you mean by statism.

What I mean is the dictionary definition:

Statism: The principle or policy of concentrating extensive economic, political, and related controls in the state at the cost of individual liberty.

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847

Alright, differs from States Rights vs. Federalism.
They believe in statism because

- most are not smart enough to deal with their own lives so they want a security cushion to fall back on.
- They are completely insecure with who they are so they want to have power to regulate everyone else
- They consistantly make bad decisions so they want the government to make most, if not all decisions that deal with financial security
- They are annoyed by other peoples decisions and lacking the balls to talk rationally with the those they disagree with, they want the government to ban the persons ability to make said decisions.

I guess basically it is a lack of balls.

That definetely is a biased definition. It's what it could answer to, not what Statists stand for.

Statism is essentially Totalitarianism. Your definition of it that is .

Would you consider Universal Health Care Statist?

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May I neither be bewildered in migratory existence
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Yes because that's a misnomer that is used to mean socialized medicine.

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Blade: "more educated and literate people than Justabubba"

Justabubba: "that would include everyone"

http://politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=27847

Blade's definition of statism is accurate. However, its not even close to Totalitarism. Get the definition of Totalitarianism and you will see its a lot more controlling over the economy and peoples personal affairs.

What Blade ignores is that liberals and conservatives both use or have used statism, quite vigorously, but for different reasons. Liberals are more likely to use statism for social policy objectives, whereas conservatives use statism in to protect national economic and security interests.

However, statism is useful in making up where the market has failed. Without statism, many countries would be in an economic dumpster. Using the power of the national government, they were able to complete railway systems, highways, pipelines, resource development, to become more economically competative.

Universal healthare is not necessarily statist. If it is decentralized, makes heavy use of the private sector, and has minimal government intervention and regulation, than its not statist.

Direct provision of healthcare by the national government is statist, anything short of this is not socialized medicine.

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So explain why conservatives think we need the state to uphold values... Sounds like there's a lot of bitterness to go around.

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Which is, of course, why there are so many rich liberals. They were just total failures at capitalism.

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Man up.

they sure fail to understand that capitalism probably had a big hand in them getting rich..