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Default Hilary moves to center/right, Hilary supporters rave about FoxNews

It really is interesting now to watch Hilary being pushed back to the center right on national defense and shift more toward her position of support for the invasion of Iraq and so forth, though not quite saying it I guess. To see her play the "politics of fear" card now, after lambasting W for telling the truth about the islamomaniacs is very satisfying for me personally. Even the democratic leadership understand we were right to invade and right to make it work. They just can't admit it to the base that THEY have persuaded to be against the war by criticizing the President for doing what they voted for.

Now, the Clinton people and supporters are happy with Fox News and calling them "fair and balanced" while they criticize the liberal stations as being in the tank for obamo. Its fantastic. As a former democrat who realized they were simply liars and opportunists (when they abandoned their war support), I am pleased to see them pay the price for this sellout of America in their effort to gain power over Congress and the White House.

This is all fantastic for McCain, a true patriot, who is GOING to win over obamo by a landslide. Obamo is going to collapse in the general election...
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Titled "A Low Road to Victory," the New York Times editorial page, in an unusual move Wednesday, opted to attack Sens. Clinton and Obama for a "mean, vacuous, desperate and pander-filled contest."
The editorial focused on Clinton but said Obama was not without blame, criticizing the junior Illinois senator for "rising to Mrs. Clinton's bait" and mocking Clinton as an Annie Oakley wannabe.
The Pennsylvania campaign, which produced yet another inconclusive result on Tuesday, was even meaner, more vacuous, more desperate, and more filled with pandering than the mean, vacuous, desperate, pander-filled contests that preceded it.

Voters are getting tired of it; it is demeaning the political process; and it does not work. It is past time for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to acknowledge that the negativity, for which she is mostly responsible, does nothing but harm to her, her opponent, her party and the 2008 election.

If nothing else, self interest should push her in that direction. Mrs. Clinton did not get the big win in Pennsylvania that she needed to challenge the calculus of the Democratic race. It is true that Senator Barack Obama outspent her 2-to-1. But Mrs. Clinton and her advisers should mainly blame themselves, because, as the political operatives say, they went heavily negative and ended up squandering a good part of what was once a 20-point lead.

On the eve of this crucial primary, Mrs. Clinton became the first Democratic candidate to wave the bloody shirt of 9/11. A Clinton television ad — torn right from Karl Rove’s playbook — evoked the 1929 stock market crash, Pearl Harbor, the Cuban missile crisis, the cold war and the 9/11 attacks, complete with video of Osama bin Laden. “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen,” the narrator intoned.

If that was supposed to bolster Mrs. Clinton’s argument that she is the better prepared to be president in a dangerous world, she sent the opposite message on Tuesday morning by declaring in an interview on ABC News that if Iran attacked Israel while she were president: “We would be able to totally obliterate them.” ...
Mr. Obama is not blameless when it comes to the negative and vapid nature of this campaign. He is increasingly rising to Mrs. Clinton’s bait, undercutting his own claims that he is offering a higher more inclusive form of politics. When she criticized his comments about “bitter” voters, Mr. Obama mocked her as an Annie Oakley wannabe. All that does is remind Americans who are on the fence about his relative youth and inexperience.

After seven years of George W. Bush’s failed with-us-or-against-us presidency, all American voters deserve to hear a nuanced debate — right now and through the general campaign — about how each candidate will combat terrorism, protect civil liberties, address the housing crisis and end the war in Iraq.

It is getting to be time for the superdelegates to do what the Democrats had in mind when they created superdelegates: settle a bloody race that cannot be won at the ballot box. Mrs. Clinton once had a big lead among the party elders, but has been steadily losing it, in large part because of her negative campaign. If she is ever to have a hope of persuading these most loyal of Democrats to come back to her side, let alone win over the larger body of voters, she has to call off the dogs.

hillary is only too willing to try to deny Obama the presidency because he stands in her way of being elected to it
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It is getting to be time for the superdelegates to do what the Democrats had in mind when they created superdelegates: settle a bloody race that cannot be won at the ballot box.
This is another important point. The democratic party has set up a system where it is extremely difficult and unlikely that their voters can pick a candidate and enshrined a superdelegate system of elites to make the tough choice for them. This is the new "liberal" in action, elitist and PC but in no way liberal. Add on top the battle of which delegates to seat in the "punished states" and we see the hypocrisy of 2000 in much clearer light. The democrats can't run a democratic election but are obsessed with changing the greatest democracy in world history.

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Qur'an 9:5 Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.

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