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Old 04-26-2008, 10:54 AM
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you probably find debating with liberals annoying
Annoying? heck no, it's hilarious!


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because they point out so many flaws in your arguments.
That hasn't happened yet.....



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conservatives on this forum will even argue with the dictionary.
Correction, liberals at this forum try to redefine words.



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its not surprising you find debating with liberals so strenuous.
The only strain is when my sides start hurting from laughing so hard.

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I think it is stupid how the words liberal, conservative, left, and right are thrown around like insults these days. Are we REALLY that immature that we have to group everyone with progressive ideals together as "liberals" but said in a way which implies an annoying hippy d-bag, and those who think that morality and family values are most important as "conservatives or neocons" which implies some evil, old emporer-palpatine-like person.

Instead of going "oh those lberals are always critisizing the war" or whatever, why don't we act like mature idividuals and respect each others opinions?
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:09 AM
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Annoying? heck no, it's hilarious!

That hasn't happened yet.....

Correction, liberals at this forum try to redefine words.

The only strain is when my sides start hurting from laughing so hard.
thats only because you agree with everything i say. and im a joke maker. liberals on this forum didnt start their own "dictionary." liberals on this forum didnt claim the dictionary is part of a conservative conspiracy.

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Instead of going "oh those lberals are always critisizing the war" or whatever, why don't we act like mature idividuals and respect each others opinions?



Sorry, I don't respect anyone, let alone someone who thinks teaching about sterilized needles in school is a great idea but The Bible is taboo...
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Based upon the definitions on wikipedia I would have to say I am a cultural liberal as explained here

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Cultural liberalism generally opposes government regulation of literature, art, academics, gambling, sex, prostitution, abortion, birth control, terminal illness, alcohol, and cannabis and other controlled substances. Most liberals oppose some or all government intervention in these areas. The Netherlands, in this respect, may be the most liberal country in the world today.
You forgot wife swappin', livestock lovin' and child molestation...

In effect Leftism is the ideological vehicle by which evil travels on this earth.
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I think it is stupid how the words liberal, conservative, left, and right are thrown around like insults these days. Are we REALLY that immature that we have to group everyone with progressive ideals together as "liberals" but said in a way which implies an annoying hippy d-bag, and those who think that morality and family values are most important as "conservatives or neocons" which implies some evil, old emporer-palpatine-like person.

Instead of going "oh those lberals are always critisizing the war" or whatever, why don't we act like mature idividuals and respect each others opinions?
Could you give us an example of what you 'feel' constitutes a 'progressive' idea...

The reason I ask is that every "Progressive" idea I've come across is merely the idiocy that experience proved was a bad idea 5000 years ago... which would tend to make it fairly REgressive...

But hey, I'd just love to hear what you've got in mind.

What's interesting to me is that you indicate that you're from Vietnam; which is interesting in that your homeland is controlled by the forces of progression and tolerance; and all they had to do was to murder a few million people to make it happen.
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I'm confused now.

Republicans always seem to increase the size of government even if they profess a different view. Are Republicans liberal?

Not understood. Could you clarify?
You'd be better off not listening to him.
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I never claimed that 100,000 civilians died by American hands. I merely state the fact that our invasion and occupation has resulted in 100,000 civilian deaths.

This is figure approximates the numbers from Iraq Body Count, the most well documented, and highly regarded, source of civilian Iraq deaths from violence during our war with Iraq.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.
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I see. The term "liberal" has been completely screwed up in the US, so that it now means the opposite of what it basically meant originally and still means everywhere else in the world.
Pretty much. Yeah.

Neocons are what liberals would be if they really believed in their own ideology.

"Progressive" is a new euphemism for "liberal"...for all intents and purposes, the two words mean the same thing where political ideologies in America are concerned. The people who hold to the original meaning of the word tend to call themselves "classic liberals".


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It's nothing more than a slur used on the left.
It is that also. But modern liberals are the ones who have made it a slur.


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I refuse to take on labels, considering people from all over the compass have condemend me.
Refusal is irrelevant. I don't call myself a neocon because I want to feel like one. I call myself a neocon because that is what other people label my ideology.
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I thought this point/counterpoint would illustrate the aggravation conservatives sometimes have when debating liberals

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34192

That little blond liberal is just obnoxious.
LOL...that about sums it up. The onion is awesome. The blonde is very typical of what debating a left wing extremist is like. I won't say all liberals since there are a handful of them who don't debate like that. But most will argue with 2+2=4, a dictionary, or anything else if it hurts their side.
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