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Old 05-05-2008, 11:11 AM
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From what I hear denmark sucks

"In short, Denmark is a socialist hellhole, that you would have to be cortically challenged to want to live in, unless you are a spineless and unproductive welfare leech. Here is why: "

http://haxor.dk/articles/dksucks.html
So what does that tax get them? How much of a .... as Kazan says .... hellhole, is it?

Corruption Perceptions Index 2002 to 2007 average worldwide ranking (1 is best - 179 is worst):
Denmark - 2nd (2007 - 1st); USA - 19th (2007 - 20th) OUCH!!
Ref: http://www.transparency.org/policy_r...dices/cpi/2007

Homicide rate per 100000 inhabitants - most recent data since 2000:
Denmark - 0.79; USA - 5.9
Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...by_murder_rate

The following are from the CIA fact book https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...ook/index.html - note, 'higher' is not better:

HIV/AIDS adult prevalence: Denmark - 0.2%; USA - 0.6% (USA 3 times higher)
Infant mortality (per 1000 births): Denmark - 4.4; USA - 6.6 (USA 50% higher)
Population below the poverty line: Denmark - 5%; USA - 12%
Equality of income distribution (Gini Index): Denmark - 24; USA - 45 (USA has almost twice the difference)
Public Debt as % of GDP: Denmark - 26.1%; USA - 36.8%

Global Peace Index http://www.visionofhumanity.com/rankings/ Denmark - 3rd; USA - 96th (!!!! whoa!!!!)

AND NOW FOR THE BIGGIE!! - where it is all pretty much summarized, and included population polls:

Economist Quality of Life Index: Denmark 9th; USA 13th

So Kazan, does your post now have quite as much impact when you see the benefit side of the equation? Nah, forget it, it is a difficult concept.
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LOL. I haven't ever had a single post edited to remove personal attacks yet I see that occurring all over the site regularly. If you can't handle my responses, its because I stick to facts you find unpleasant to recognize and unable to counter.
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Old 05-05-2008, 11:39 AM
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So what does that tax get them? How much of a .... as Kazan says .... hellhole, is it?

Corruption Perceptions Index 2002 to 2007 average worldwide ranking (1 is best - 179 is worst):
Denmark - 2nd (2007 - 1st); USA - 19th (2007 - 20th) OUCH!!
Ref: http://www.transparency.org/policy_r...dices/cpi/2007

Homicide rate per 100000 inhabitants - most recent data since 2000:
Denmark - 0.79; USA - 5.9
Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...by_murder_rate

The following are from the CIA fact book https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...ook/index.html - note, 'higher' is not better:

HIV/AIDS adult prevalence: Denmark - 0.2%; USA - 0.6% (USA 3 times higher)
Infant mortality (per 1000 births): Denmark - 4.4; USA - 6.6 (USA 50% higher)
Population below the poverty line: Denmark - 5%; USA - 12%
Equality of income distribution (Gini Index): Denmark - 24; USA - 45 (USA has almost twice the difference)
Public Debt as % of GDP: Denmark - 26.1%; USA - 36.8%

Global Peace Index http://www.visionofhumanity.com/rankings/ Denmark - 3rd; USA - 96th (!!!! whoa!!!!)

AND NOW FOR THE BIGGIE!! - where it is all pretty much summarized, and included population polls:

Economist Quality of Life Index: Denmark 9th; USA 13th

So Kazan, does your post now have quite as much impact when you see the benefit side of the equation? Nah, forget it, it is a difficult concept.

Actually the quote is from the website not according to me dumbass.

It was supposed to be a joke because this is a hate the US thread, but I guess you just take this to personally, now you can go and crawl back into the danish hole you came out of.

And a special note, I don't give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about denmark
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LOL. I haven't ever had a single post edited to remove personal attacks yet I see that occurring all over the site regularly. If you can't handle my responses, its because I stick to facts you find unpleasant to recognize and unable to counter.
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LOL. I haven't ever had a single post edited to remove personal attacks yet I see that occurring all over the site regularly. If you can't handle my responses, its because I stick to facts you find unpleasant to recognize and unable to counter.
Makedde (no slight) tries to find agreement and doesn't really appreciate that you a real opposition to his opinion that a simple explanation wouldn't solve. That seems to be who he is.

Makedde, feel free to respond if I am either wrong or off base.
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Default The spirit of 1968 represents the progressive US

Compare the progressive American era of 1968 with the conservatism of the Bush era 40 years later:

The year began with a devasting blow to US imperialism's attempt to crush opposition to its puppet regime in the southern half of Vietnam. Blown apart was the arrogant assumption of the US ruling class that it could crush resistance anywhere in the huge chunk of the world it dominated.

The consequences fed back into the heart of US society. The Democrat president, Lyndon Baines Johnson (LBJ), had looked forward only a few days before to a triumphant re-election; the Tet Offensive meant that an anti-war candidate, Gene McCarthy, enjoyed unexpected success in the New Hampshire primary in March while Johnson declared that he would not be standing again.

Just a few weeks later came the assassination of Martin Luther King in Memphis. People rose up in every black neighbourhood in the US, attacking symbols of authority, with young African-Americans turning away from the civil rights movement's goal of peaceful integration into existing US society towards the overtly revolutionary ideas of the Black Panthers.

In August, the Democratic Party convention in Chicago chose the pro-war nominee Hubert Humphrey as its candidate despite him not winning in a single primary. As a result of this act of "American democracy" US citizens proceeded to demonstrate outside the convention to which they were met by a succession of police batons that rained down upon them.

The spirit of 1968 continued on into the early 1970s. 1970 for example, saw the biggest yet wave of student protests in the US after Nixon and Kissinger extended the Vietnam war to Cambodia and the national guard shot students dead at Kent State University, Ohio.

The activities I have described above represent all that is great about America. Compare this time with the 1950s and early 1960s, a period in US history in which the structures of existing society seemed frozen. It was during this time that US dissidents were driven from their jobs by the Un-American Activities Commitee, imprisoned like Dashiell Hammett, expelled from the country like Charlie Chaplin or deprived of their passports like Paul Robeson.

The time when the CIO unions had been a radical force were long since past. A stultifying conformity pervaded social life. The family was take to mean the man working while the women toiled in the home waiting for him with complete responsibility for childcare. Women were expected to kow-tow to men, young people to look up to their elders, black people to be thankful when occasionally they were not discriminated against. In the southern part of the US, black people were still subject to the separate and unequal "Jim Crow" status which denied them voting rights and any redress against racist thugs and police.

The conservatives of today, many who write bilge on this site (no names mentioned but you know who you are ), would like us to return to this type of society. These are the people who believe it is the right of the US to use bombs and tanks to subdue vast areas of the world in the name of "humanitarian intervention".

1968 showed a generation how dissent and revolts can erupt, how they interact with one another and enable millions to see the possibility of a new world. That's something hated by the neo-cons on this site and by their political Gods like Sarkozy, Berlusconni, Blair and Bush. It is something the rest of us should rejoice in. I have often (falsely) been accused of being anti-American. But what the above illustrates is that rather being anti-American, I am anti-what America has become.
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First of all, I'm a girl.

Second, I think you are right. I am trying to find a compromise here, with Eleanor. She may be partially right, but she refues to admit she is incredibly bias with her opinions. I'd like her to admit that she doesn't know everything, and therefore has no right to judge.
You aren't going to find that compromise because Eleanor is steadfast in her opinions and is sure about her evidence.
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You aren't going to find that compromise because Eleanor is steadfast in her opinions and is sure about her evidence.
She may have evidence, but that doesn't mean she isn't being incredibly bias and judgemental, and plain racist in her opinions.
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...I have simply stated MY facts.
You aren't entitled to your own facts. The facts are the facts are the facts are the facts are the facts. You don't get to change the truth.
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But that would mean that Eleanor is not entitled to her facts, eithor?
The facts are what actually happen, what actually happened, what actually exist, and what actually existed, and what is really there.
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