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Old 05-02-2008, 05:20 PM
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What do people really belive? do they think this country is going in the right direction? If so why, If not why not?

Don't just blame the lib's or the conserv's.

Should the government parent your children? where does it cross the line?
Should the government make "moral" laws?
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The jury is still out if the country is going in the right direction.

No the government has no buisness parenting my child that is my job, for cripe sake you can't even spank your child now with out being investigated for child abuse.

The government has already made way to many laws - it is the job of the federal government to uphold the constitution. Not create a nanny state.

Somehow there has been a cultrure of no responsibility for ones actions created. There always has to be some underlying circumstance as to why it happened, maybe they weren't brest fed.
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What do people believe? I think the better question is "why do they believe it".

For most, belief seems to involve little more than the replication of memes.
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Should the government parent your children? where does it cross the line?
Should the government make "moral" laws?
Parents should learn to parent their own children. The Government has no business parenting other peoples kids.

As for the moral thing, everyone has different ideas on what morals are, and where they draw the line.

As America is a very conservative country, your morals are alot higher than those of Australia, being that we can get away with a lot more than you guys can.

IMO, your morals need to be relaxed a little.
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No the government should not make "moral" laws.

That is my single biggest issue with this nation right now. Too many of these moral laws are being shoved down our throats.

Its a bigger deal to me than the Iraq War, Health Care, Global Warming, the Economy or anything else because you essentially have a bunch of people trying to tell ME how to live my own life from a moral aspect.

Whats also frustrating to me is that most of these morals are derived from religion and my only gripe with that is that you cannot prove religion and since religion should be seperate from politics you have stuff that cant be proven being shoved down our throats just because someone else says it should be.

Laws should be designed to protect people from OTHER people. I dont believe in the whole "protection from ones self" type of b.s..

If you kill someone there should be laws against that...or rape...In other words things that impede on free will and freedom.

But dont tell me that I get a fine if I dont wear my seat belt. Dont tell me what I can or cant put in my own body, and dont tell anyone who they can or cant marry.

Those laws are ridiculous IMO.
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Yes. Absolutely. The only thing we need is to speed up our transition from the frontier days of personal liberty, and rid ourselves of the few remaining remnants of American nationalism and patriotism.

As our embrace of progressive value continues to move us toward a centrally controlled state, socialism is being proven to be the best problem-solver for modern times. As I've pointed out before, we have far too many crucial issues before us today to tolerate frivilous freedoms that impede our progress as a society.

We have run steadily on this path for the past 50 years, and have but a little left to complete the changeover. This is why it's crucial to support Obama or Hillary this November................change must be our main objective!
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Yes. Absolutely. The only thing we need is to speed up our transition from the frontier days of personal liberty, and rid ourselves of the few remaining remnants of American nationalism and patriotism.

As our embrace of progressive value continues to move us toward a centrally controlled state, socialism is being proven to be the best problem-solver for modern times. As I've pointed out before, we have far too many crucial issues before us today to tolerate frivilous freedoms that impede our progress as a society.

We have run steadily on this path for the past 50 years, and have but a little left to complete the changeover. This is why it's crucial to support Obama or Hillary this November................change must be our main objective!
your view is why we are going in the wrong direction , frivolous freedoms how ludacris
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I think that is each and every one of our responsibilities, including myself, should be responsible for the direction of this country.

Everything that has happened in my life, it was because of choices I made and mistakes that I made. The same applies to Americans. We cannot blame the government or others for our troubles. We must accept responsibility for our own actions.

So, the only one holding back the country from becoming once again the best place in the world to live is ourselves, nothing else.
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No the government should not make "moral" laws.

That is my single biggest issue with this nation right now. Too many of these moral laws are being shoved down our throats.

Its a bigger deal to me than the Iraq War, Health Care, Global Warming,
Atheist Leftist... AKA: the dreaded Secular Progressive... The Moderate, independent.. The Centrists… The tattered remnants of Marx… OKA: The enemy of peace, prosperity and freedom on the whole and it's time we started to treat them as such.

Now this member has just declared that the legal code has no business pertaining to morality... MORALITY! ROFLMNAO...

That is the reasoning advanced by PURE EVIL friends... this person doesn't even possess the intellectual means to recognize the vacuous nature of that idiocy... yet she possesses the means to vote. Again friends, it's time we begin the discussion of stripping these people of a political voice.

Now I know that sounds harsh... But let me ask you, if you were sitting in a room with a person who was eaten up with Ebola and the only thing separating you from the slow agony of the most horrific death... was a thin wall of glass... a glass which prevented them from being able to call for help, help which can never come, because the strain is so severe that no solution is possible... would you break that glass to provide them a means to spread that evil to you and the balance of the planet?

If you would, then you're part of the problem, if you would not, then you've answered the question and need only to realize that these people are the purest essence of evil; there is no cure as the reason they are the way they are, the reason they believe what they believe is they lack the intellectual means to do anything else...

They're not with us and to tolerate them is to succumb to the inevitable effects of their cataclysmic policy...
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