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    Patton got it right.

    We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it? They have no Air Force anymore , their
    gasoline and ammunition supplies are low.I've seen their miserable
    supply trains;mostly wagons draw by beaten up old hoses or oxen.
    I'll say this ;the Third Army alone with very little help and with
    damned few casulaties,could lick what is left of the Russians in six
    weeks. You mark my words.Don't ever forget them. Someday we
    will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six
    million lives.

    The Russians are mongols. They are Slavs and a lot of them used to be
    ruled by ancient Byzantium. From Genghis Kahn to Stalin. they have
    not changed. They never will and we will never learn, at least , not until
    it is too late.
    I believe that by taking a strong attitude the Russians,they will back down
    . We have already yielded too much to their mongolian nature.
    We have destroyed what could have been a good race of people and
    we are about to replace them with mongolian savages and all of Europe
    with communism

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    I'll say this ;the Third Army alone with very little help and with damned few casulaties,could lick what is left of the Russians in six weeks.
    That's what Hitler thought when Russia was still weak and most of its officers had been executed, but I'll say this; we would have been swallowed up by the Russkies by Halloween of whatever year we went in. You don't beat thousands of T-34s with third rate Shermans. I'm glad Patton's superiors all thought he was a loose cannon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoebe Bump View Post
    That's what Hitler thought when Russia was still weak and most of its officers had been executed, but I'll say this; we would have been swallowed up by the Russkies by Halloween of whatever year we went in. You don't beat thousands of T-34s with third rate Shermans. I'm glad Patton's superiors all thought he was a loose cannon.
    We had the atomic bomb, they did not at that point...we should have dropped one right down the Kremlin chimney on to Stalin's lap. We had the long range B-29 bomber and could have established bases in Germany..and bombed them all the way to Siberia...none of their fighters could match an escorted B-29 high atltitude bomb run. The first thing the Russians do is reverse engineer the B-29, and steal atomic secrets to build their own bombs. Devious SOBs.

    Patton was murdered for speaking the truth.

    The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinese or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other amiable characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and they are all out sons-of-(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)es, barbarians, and chronic drunks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkdriver View Post
    We had the atomic bomb, they did not at that point...we should have dropped one right down the Kremlin chimney on to Stalin's lap..
    Patton was wrong. Frankly even suggesting that the Third Army alone could have taken on the Soviets was ignorant. The Soviets did have an air force and they had more armor and armor that was superior to any American armor, and more artillery and more infantry- all battle hardened. The only advantage we had was air power.

    Americans had no appetite for another war- especially not with who had been touted as an American ally for 4 years. The atomic bomb eventually would have been an equalizer- but at what cost?

    Instead we had a cold war- and then the wall fell.

    Things turned out pretty well for the U.S.- certainly much better than if we charged into a hot war with the Soviets. Instead we let them defeat themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkdriver View Post
    We had the atomic bomb, they did not at that point...we should have dropped one right down the Kremlin chimney on to Stalin's lap. We had the long range B-29 bomber and could have established bases in Germany..and bombed them all the way to Siberia...none of their fighters could match an escorted B-29 high atltitude bomb run. The first thing the Russians do is reverse engineer the B-29, and steal atomic secrets to build their own bombs. Devious SOBs.

    Patton was murdered for speaking the truth.
    Sure, just as the Red Army would basically overrun Europe and destroy everything they found in retaliation for our hubris in thinking that a nuclear weapon or two would be able to stop the Ruskies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GraspingforPeace View Post
    Sure, just as the Red Army would basically overrun Europe and destroy everything they found in retaliation for our hubris in thinking that a nuclear weapon or two would be able to stop the Ruskies.
    The Reich was able to kill 1 out of every 10 Russians....
    14 Million casualties....with 1930s era bombers.


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    This thread is willdly racist and so are you. You should feel bad for taking Patton's comments on race knowing that back then blacks werent even human beings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkdriver View Post
    The Reich was able to kill 1 out of every 10 Russians....
    14 Million casualties....with 1930s era bombers.
    Uh, I'm hoping you know that Germany didn't kill the Russians with just bombers. They lost upwards of five million men in the Eastern Front.

    Simply put, darken the skies with B-29s and you can matc that casualty rate in a matter of months.
    The Red Army had over 12 million men at the end of the war. AND they had reached the heartland of Germany. You're an insane arm-chair general if you think that any army in Europe, even with bombers, would somehow be able to stop such an onslaught. You keep trying to claim that it would be easy, but it wouldn't have been. Nobody wanted another war at the time. There were contingencies, of course, but what you're basically talking about is WWIII directly after WWII. Sure, idiots that welcome mass death would want this, but nobody else did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herkdriver View Post
    The Reich was able to kill 1 out of every 10 Russians....
    14 Million casualties....with 1930s era bombers.


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    The majority of Soviet deaths occurred on the battlefield through attrition, not through bombing. The Luftwaffe had no long-range bombers capable of penetrating deep into Russia and getting back. The Heinkel 111, for example, had a range of around 1400 miles-that's 700 in and 700 out. Berlin to Moscow is just under 1000 miles.
    So, no long-range fighter escort, relatively short-range bombers, a host of very capable Soviet fighter aircraft waiting for them...see what I'm getting at?
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    The only advantage we had was air power.
    They had the Sturmovik, the best tank buster in the world at the time. And they had thousands of them.

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