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Old 05-04-2008, 08:47 AM
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You did not say this when you voted for Bush. It is hell of a lot convenient to say it now about Obama. As far as looking at his record, Bush has made some decision that his past votes in Texas as governor would not indicate. Don't pay attention to Obama's past votes. He is a conservative when it comes to the market, but liberal on social issues. He understands that if you do too much socialization, then our economy will sink. Beside the current Bush administration they believe in corporate welfare which is liberalism for the rich. On the no votes in office, they are a tactical strategy. They can not attack your issues on either right or left unless you actually vote.
I didn't vote for bush. Tell me, what makes barak conservative? His hundreds of plans to regulate everything?
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:23 AM
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Fine, but just be sure to actually look into his ideals and compare them with other candidates ideals. Don't vote for a person just because they different and look good - which Obama does very well. Don't have the bumper sticker mentality that most of the voting population has.[/QUOTE]

You did not say this when you voted for Bush. It is hell of a lot convenient to say it now about Obama. As far as looking at his record, Bush has made some decision that his past votes in Texas as governor would not indicate. Don't pay attention to Obama's past votes. He is a conservative when it comes to the market, but liberal on social issues. He understands that if you do too much socialization, then our economy will sink. Beside the current Bush administration they believe in corporate welfare which is liberalism for the rich. On the no votes in office, they are a tactical strategy. They can not attack your candidacy with great weight on either the right or left unless you actually vote. Yes, they can say that you did not vote. Is it worse than voting against or for something very controversial. This way you get to define you self without anything sticking.
anyone who wants to tax corporations more is not conservative towards the market
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Now I am just a southern redneck. I just listened to his speech on CNN.

I agree. I have heard a lot of kin folk and even myself say a lot of hateful crap.
I believe I would rather have Obama pull us out. I pray the Islamic terrorist hope Obama does not send us in.

Obama has this white redneck vote in NC.

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Based on that type of cloudy reasoning, I can understand your desire to vote for a limp-wristed socialist.
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White guilt, black guilt it does not matter we are all guilty.

Clinton is a fraud and McCain is a Bush Chaney puppet. Barrack may be lying like the rest but I think I need a different face to hear these lies from.

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You may be guilty of excessively pleasuring yourself, but don't lump me into your pity party. So you will vote for a person who has openly lied to you over a war hero? You deserve the warts on your hands and your poor eyesight.
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Don't pay attention to Obama's past votes. He is a conservative when it comes to the market, but liberal on social issues. He understands that if you do too much socialization, then our economy will sink.
This is completely false. Nothing about Obama, or Hillary for that matter, is conservative. These leaders are quite progressive/socialist on both matters of the economy as well as social issues. Why do you think their key campaign phrases are all about great CHANGE?

What has Obama ever done to make you think he is conservative?????
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This is exactly what I'm talking about. Those are all "bumper sticker" topics, and they're almost word for word quotes. Do your own research on them. Clinton is anti-China, I don't wonder what I'm buying, Bush got rich off a baseball team not big oil, general Petraeus is the head of the military, 50 percent of the military has not been sub-contracted out to haliburton, and I'm pretty sure weed is still illegal.

Don't fall prey to that sort of propaganda, or we really will lose control. I'm not saying you have to believe a thing I said, but do your own research. Don't just vote for someone based on their personality.

You can't get rich off a baseball team!! You are rich then buy a baseball team!
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You can't get rich off a baseball team!! You are rich then buy a baseball team!
o.O it's how he made his millions.
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o.O it's how he made his millions.

Again, you dont become rich from owning a baseball team! It is not something you can invest in the ground floor and work your way up! Baseball teams cost millions of dollars, hundreds of millions actually. In order to buy a baseball team you need enormous amounts of capital. So no, he did not make his money on a baseball team!
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Again, you dont become rich from owning a baseball team! It is not something you can invest in the ground floor and work your way up! Baseball teams cost millions of dollars, hundreds of millions actually. In order to buy a baseball team you need enormous amounts of capital. So no, he did not make his money on a baseball team!
well, it's not surprising to hear that the World Socialist Website is wrong.

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Considering how politicians lie Obama may be a Louis farrakhan deciple for all we know. The only quote in his book was from Malcolm X. We just do not know. Don't get me wrong - No body can screw Washington up anymore than our last 5 presidents and Congress .

socialization - Obama no way

One great thing I did here Obama say the other day was that he thought anyone making more than 75,000 needed to pay more in taxes. Jeez lets say I make 76,000 and given the cumulative taxes - local, state and fed. that should leave me about 37,0000 net. thats before Obama raises my taxes. Not to mention gas taxes to make use us less and subsadise ethonol and wind.

Man I am feeling better already - really freeeee and unthreatend.

But I have it figured out - I think that if my wife and I just get a divorce - then I might just fall under Obamas tax increase. Heck and then we can probably quilify for some government give always. Gee where was it I heard that a government program effected the Family - lets see I think it started with W - oh yea Welfare
Boy the future is blindingly bright - Washington Has The Answers for its us true disciples.

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