Originally Posted by Anikdote

Please show us the Article/Section of the Constitution your referring to.....

Originally Posted by BigRed

Congress can only declare war.

They can't pass the power to the President.

That simple.

Originally Posted by proof-hunter

The UN Charter is a treaty? LMAO What do you mean treaty? you think
the UN was made to control America? to tell us when and how, and with what
methods to use to defend ourselves? and to screw us behind the back with
the food for oil program? LMAO you call that a treaty? maybe a treat for you,
but it sucks for us.

No wonder Europe acts like it does. it thought the creation of the UN was
a treaty LMAO well somebody lied to you and it was not the Americans.

The UN is an international organization whose stated aims are to facilitate cooperation
in international law, and international security.

To put it in simple terms a forum where member countries can express
issues and be heard in a peaceful manner to hash out difference's and or to
make recombination's or solutions to world problems.

It was OUR way to get Europe to help police the world, not just the usa.
but Europe has taken more to trying to control America by using
the UN to no avail, because the UN has no such powers
only through sanctions or cooperation with other member countries to take action,
such as sanctions or war. which they have not done nether one to the Americans yet.



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Originally Posted by Tuatara

UN calls on all governments (including the USA) to observe international law.

US...only nation to vote against it

Originally Posted by Anikdote

You fail.

Originally Posted by Anikdote

Ya and we have veto power AND we (*)(*)(*)(*)ing created that worthless corrupt strawman international bash America club

Originally Posted by BigRed

I don't agree with this person with regards to not giving a crap if the soldiers are being killed and/or wounded.

However, that being said, there is something interesting to be discussed here: The worship in our culture of the soldier. It is odd. Adds more credibility to the fact that we are a warrior nation and hold the soldier to high esteem.

And I can't say I support the troops because if I don't support the politician for sending the troops to a destination for an objective I don't agree with, I can't support the people performing the actual action of it. I know I will get heat for it, but I don't really care. People have been brought up to love the soldier know matter what and that is just wrong. I cannot support a people that willfully engage in something fundamentally incorrect and immoral.

Going back to an early discussion, a standing military is not necessary. Regular Americans could easily thwart almost any invasion. As for regular threats from rogue nations or aggressive nations, the mere fact that we could kill every man, woman and child anywhere on this Earth; well let's just say I don't think anyone would mess with us.

Terrorist attacks are a bit different. But a standing army won't thwart that either. Foreign policy changes will.

Nonetheless, back to the original intent of my post. I don't wish death upon soldiers by any means. But I also don't wish death upon innocent civilians.

Originally Posted by CRIMSON MASK

We "worship" our soldiers becuase if not for them we'd be at the mercy of the evils of the world. It's becuase of soldiers who have given their blood and fought until they can't fight anymore that you and I can post whatever we want on a message board.


Your comments on not having a standing military are powerfully ignorant. Without a powerful military we'd be at the mercy of monsters around the globe. Regular Americans COULD NOT turn back an invasion. Pitting regular Americans against a trained and equiped army of terrorists would be a bloodbath loss for us. Duh.

Originally Posted by BigRed

I guess you missed where I said Congress can't pass over the force to the President.