This guy wants to say **** the troops?? Well I say **** HIM!!


I dont like the war in Iraq, but people like that make me sick.

The blame America first crowd truly sucks. Yes sometimes we deserve blame and in those instances I will blame America. Im not BLINDLY patriotic. However this country also has alot of great things going for it as well, and one of those things is the awesome nature and ability of the men and women serving in our armed forces.

As a former Marine I would be in heaven if someone like that actually had the testicular fortitude to say something like that to my face. Im naturally an easy going guy, but I would take great joy and pleasure in roughing someone like that up.

Its like those idiots who protest at the troops funerals....I think those people would make for excellent target practice for our recruits. Consider it a "real world" training environment or something lol.

I wonder what this giant (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) bag was doing at 18,19,20 years old?? Certainly not risking his neck for his country. THAT is why the troops deserve respect. Believe me the pay SUCKS, so the people who serve are doing it for the love of their nation and because they think it is the honorable and right thing to do. Idiots like this guy have no idea what honor is.

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Yes - the UN Charter is treaty that the US signed in accordance with Article 6 of your Constitution, making the provisions of the UN Charter part of US law

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Your link means nothing to me. I already know what Congress did and what the President did to get the requirments to go to war with Iraq. I don't need a link telling me that. Nonetheless, Congress can't do what they did. They shift the power to the President so as to take off blame if things go bad. It's wrong.

Again, you don't have to tell me that the United Nations sucks. I don't like the UN. I want out of the UN. That being said, again, we hold countries accountable, but when countries try to hold us accountable, we snub our noses at them.

Congress did not declare war. That is a violation of the United States Constitution. They can't just give the "authorization for force". That's just political nonsense and has been since 1945.

ROFLMNAO...

I absolutey ADORE this canard...

This is where the pro-terrorist, anti-American jack@$$ in question runs to demand that "CONGRESSS NEVER DECLARED WAR ON IRAQ!"

As if there is only one means of declaring war and the USC provided a specific outline in triplicate form which, unless that form is filled out and properly filed with the Clerk... the US can't go to war...

Well here's the thing girls; the Congress gave the President authority to go to war... They didn't pass on the responsibility; they didn't transfer power; THEY AUTHORIZED THE PRESIDENT TO USE MILITARY FORCE AGAINST A SOVEREIGN NATION: AND BY ANY OBJECTIVE MEASURE, WHEN YOU USE MILITARY POWER AGAINST A SOVEREIGN NATION FOR ANY PURPOSE, BUT PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU USE MILITARY POWER TO DIRECTLY, OVERTLY AND UNAPOLOGETICALLY OVERTHROW THAT SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENT: YOU'VE DAYUM WELL COMMITTED AN ACT OF WAR.

An act, which in this case, was authorized by Congress; an act of war thus 'declared' through that authorization.

You'll take careful note that there is NOTHING in the USC which determines the means by which Congress must declare war; and while I know you are loathe to accept this analysis, because it completely destroys your insipid rationalization, the fact remains, it destroys your rationalization and that's that...

So... Case closed. CHECK MATE... and get lost ya pacifist ****!

But he invasion was illegal under Article 39 of the UN Charter, which by Article 6 of the US Constitution forms part of US law.

So... Case closed. CHECK MATE... and have a nice day.

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The UN can not force us to go or not to go to war. They do not hold that type of power.

That is something you seem to forget everytime you bring that up.

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2. Sport of choice for Sailors: football.
3. Sport of choice for Soldiers: baseball.
4. Sport of choice for Coast Guardsmen: tennis.
5. Sport of choice for Airmen: golf.
Notice how the farther down the list you go, the smaller their balls get.

to show how little power the UN has we should pull all fundind and make them move after we collect the money all the diplomats owe for parking tickets!!

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No sis, the UN Charter is not US law... I know you feel it is, but the fact remains that you are wrong; but hey… deep down inside, you already knew that, dihndja?

The US is not in ANY WAY obligated to comply with ANY mandate, wish, whim or desire of the UN.

Your analysis of the US Constitution is typical of the empty-headed left. For starters, the USC is not a suicide pact. Unique circumstances have often required the US to arrest certain aspects of the USC ITSELF... for instance, in the Civil war, the President of the US declared that rights of habeas corpus to be set aside which resulted in advocates for the enemy of the United States being seized at the order of the President; this without regard to any other consideration; those individuals arrested by the US Executive for seditious acts were kept outside of public knowledge and without representation of any kind... legal or otherwise. (I believe one of the gravest mistakes of GW's Presidency was not instituting this policy post 9-11. But hey, that's how ya get to a 30% popularity...)

Those were not illegal acts, they were not even ill-advised acts; they were uniquely necessary acts required as result of unique circumstances.

The same is true with the campaign in Iraq, within the war on Terrorism... The US Congress authorized the President to go to war with ANY actor which he felt was a threat to the US. Hussein was such a threat and this without regard to your sympathies with the Socialist government of Iraq and their tyrannical leadership.

Beyond that, the United States invested 18 months prior to the invasion of Iraq, attempting to mediate the situation through intense diplomatic efforts; this included the passage of UN Sanctions, not the least of which was 1441 that recalled a half of dozen previous sanctions and committed Iraq to a date certain deadline wherein Iraq was made perfectly aware, that their failure to comply with the demands of the international community would result in severe consequences... The US executed those consequences and did so in the full light of day and with the ascension of the US legislature and within the guidelines set forth in the UN Charter.

The US had been viciously attacked by international terrorism; Iraq was a long time (30 years) proponent of the same brand of international terrorism as that which attacked us and while there is no direct, conclusive evidence that Iraq was directly involved with that attack, the very nature of proxy war is that such would be the case; and given the evidence which suggest Iraq was in contact with the lead hijacker of the 9-11 attack, only a few months prior to the attack through its diplomatic corps; and given Iraq's 30 year history of overtly promoting the interests of International terrorism; and given his belligerent refusal to comply with US and UN demands and to reject Islamic terrorism and his alliance with same, POST 9-11; to have allowed Hussein to remain in power would have been nothing less than incompetence.

You may not agree sis, but as I see it, when the left is crying about what I'm saying, THIS ALONE is proof certain that I'm right... (in at least two contexts and on several levels...)

So it turns out you misjudged your situation on the board, which once again leaves you facing Check, Mate.

ROFL… Leftists…

No sis, the UN Charter is US law... I know you feel it isn't, but the fact remains that you are wrong; but hey… deep down inside, you already knew that, dihndja?
Article 6 of the US Constitution says:
...all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land

The UN Charter was a Treaty signed by the US Government under its authority from Article 6, with other states.

It is the supreme Law of the Land

So it turns out you misjudged your situation on the board, which once again leaves you facing Check, Mate.

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Of course the UN cannot force the USA to do anything. That does not change the fact though that the invasion of Iraq was illegal, as it was carried out without the sanction of the UN Security Council, in contravention of Article 39 of the UN Charter - a treaty which forms part of the body of US Law under Article 6 of the US Constitution.

Does it bother you that almost everything you post is completely wrong. Such as:

- There are "thousands" of peer-reviewed scientific papers which argue against AGW,
- 1938 was globally the hottest year on record,
- the word "islamofascist" was coined in the 1930s

When are you going to admit to these lies you keep telling?

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