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Old 05-10-2008, 10:05 AM
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The sad part is though, there is nothing on the inside. An opinion based on no factual information is always going to be a hard one to support.
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:55 AM
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Friends, this person is incapable of reason.

It's as simple as that. She has yet to advance a valid argument, she can't cite a single valid statute which supports her assertion of a violation; she has repeatedly stated that without regard to the evidence and reason which refutes her position she will simply continue to charge otherwise and the site simply refuses to enforce its own rules regarding trolling...

But this is a fine exercise in testing the reason of the ideological left and their anti-American perspective; a perspective which is just as vacuous as this members specious argument... they're simply dogmatic defenders of a failing ideology desperate to ignore their own failure and desperation of such a level that they are now promoting an enemy that were they to actually get their way and see that enemy succeed in its goal of a world-wide caliphate…, the first people that enemy would kill, would be them...

Let the record reflect that this member advances an argument which declares the United Nations as the final world authority, with its charter representing the scope of international law.

The UN Charter is not international law, on any level and is not binding against even member states, let alone non-member states.

This member declares that the US Constitution lays out specific language which requires Congress to declare war in specific terms; yet the member cannot cite a single article within the USC in support of that position.

The Member refuses to post supporting argument, rejects refuting evidence and continues to advance a thoroughly failed position.

He is advancing the equivalent of: 2+2=7 and despite all of the evidence to the contrary, with analogical descriptions illustrating the certain value of four being the sum of 2 & 2... The advocate simply rationalizes that there are many people who believe 2+2=7 so he's entitled to say so...
I'm not a girl.

You haven't provided anything, but nonsense drivel.

CDP provided nothing but an opinion that tried to assert that the Constitution supports preemtive doctrine. Which it doesn't and nobody can add credibility to that ridiculous notion.

You can't pass power to the President to declare war. It's wrong. It isn't constitutional.

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Old 05-10-2008, 11:56 AM
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What? Ever since I came to this board you have complained that his decision to go into Iraq was illegal because it violated the constitution. Now you are saying that it does not?

Boy you have a lot of correcting to do then.
You were talking about something completely different.

It goes against the Constitution. I have no clue what you were talking about with regards to the 9th and 10th amendment.
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Old 05-10-2008, 11:57 AM
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The sad part is though, there is nothing on the inside. An opinion based on no factual information is always going to be a hard one to support.
You have no facts to support what you and the other people in this thread are asserting.

The only thing I have seen supplied is an opinion document and a continue barrage of people saying I am wrong.
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Old 05-10-2008, 01:14 PM
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You were talking about something completely different.

It goes against the Constitution. I have no clue what you were talking about with regards to the 9th and 10th amendment.
Now you are going to claim ignorance? Ok then.

Plenty of facts have been presented. You fail to accept them because they go against your opinion. That is fine, and was expected.
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Old 05-10-2008, 01:17 PM
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Now you are going to claim ignorance? Ok then.

Plenty of facts have been presented. You fail to accept them because they go against your opinion. That is fine, and was expected.
You have not presented facts CDP.

I have followed this thread obviously. You have only presented an opinion document. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Old 05-10-2008, 01:54 PM
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You have not presented facts CDP.

I have followed this thread obviously. You have only presented an opinion document. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Are there facts in that document? Yes there are opinions in there, but they are backed by constitutional fact.

Does the constitution not say that the President is the Commander in Chief of the military? Have you provided any facts, or does the constitution say that the President can not use the military?
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He is advancing the equivalent of: 2+2=7 and despite all of the evidence to the contrary, with analogical descriptions illustrating the certain value of four being the sum of 2 & 2... The advocate simply rationalizes that there are many people who believe 2+2=7 so he's entitled to say so...
I think that 2+2=5 captures the Orwellianess of it much better than 2+2=7, for anyone who's read 1984.
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You have not presented facts CDP.

I have followed this thread obviously. You have only presented an opinion document. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Let me ask you a question. Would you go to war to defend a allie like England or to defend people who are being oppressed? Would that not be the moral thing to do?
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