**** the troops! - Page 27

BigRed · #**261** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by C-D-P

A person who joins may not agree with present situations, but he does agree with defending America. He may join and not agree with what we are doing now. If that bothers him then he is free to do his time and get out. Or he can stay and stick through it, and defend what he sees is right. Those of you that feel you can not defend he who defends you are cowards. Plain and simple.

No war since WW2 has been about defending America. I don't care about the propaganda.

Cowards? Not quite. Just not morons. I don't defend people that do something I think is entirely stupid and has almost no semblance of justification. The only shred of justification I can see is wanting to go back to defend your brothers and sisters in the battlefield. But none of your brothers and sisters and certainly not you, should have been in the battlefield in the first place.

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Originally Posted by C-D-P

You do nothing, and offer nothing. Yet feel free to criticize. While living under the blanket of security that they provide. Be it action here or there, they are providing it. It does not matter if you see them as protecting you. They are. By criticizing them for their service you not only do them a disservice, but you do yourself a disservice.

I expected this eventually. Oh well. I do not offer my life up for just anything. You CDP, can go die for big business, military defense contractors, Wall Street, politicians and foreign citizens embroiled in thousands of years of conflict and I'll give my life when the cause matters. When does the cause matter? The defense of America and of my family. You can continue shoveling that soldier worship in my direction, but I won't eat it just because you say so.

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Originally Posted by C-D-P

If you disagree with what is going on in the world, then it is your responsibility to stand out against it. Yet you fail to do so. You sleep safe in your bed and go to school. Then get on the internet and condemn the rough men that do violence on your behalf. You then criticize those in power for doing the same. If you do not believe that they are acting on your behalf then it is up to you to do something about it. Yet you don't. You sit back and boo from the sidelines. Shame on you. So proud to talk smack on the internet where no one knows who you are. Yet so afraid to stand up and do something about something you feel so strongly about. *bleep.*

You assume I fail to do so. Therein lies your issue. Hell no. Hell no. I will not offer my name up to the soldiers that do violence. They do nothing in my name. I did not allow them to and will not allow them to. Hell no.

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Originally Posted by C-D-P

You want change? Stand the hell up and change something. If you are unwilling to do so then please shut the hell up.

Changing the military-industrial complex isn't as easy as 1-2-3 CDP. It is a machine that has been chugging along for decades and won't change at the whim of the minority.

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Originally Posted by C-D-P

Oh wait..... I forgot, you are going to effect change later, after you are done with college. Yeah good call. Shut up, or do something.

Good ranting so far. I'm enjoying it.

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Originally Posted by C-D-P

The other day I posted a thread that talked about the run for the warriors Run. That will take place next week. There are at least ten members of this board that live within two hundred miles (ten that I have counted anyway) and not one person from this board has registered, or even commented on that thread. Can't even run a mile for those who have put themselves in harms way? Cowards, The lot of you!

I feel sympathetic and empathetic towards the plight of most human beings. But I feel zero sympathy for those that put themselves in a harmful situation out of ignorance.

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Originally Posted by C-D-P

I would rather do something, than do nothing.

Something that is detrimental to what is right?

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You are doing nothing. *bleep*

You assume I do nothing.

And the line of their existence keeping me "safe". I don't buy that either sir.

catzmeow · #**262** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:13 AM

I have to say, though, that was a kick ass rant by CDP. Even though my boyfriend, who served a year in Tikrit, would totally disagree with it, and thinks we need to get the hell out of dodge, and is voting accordingly.

Me? I'm voting McCain.

BigRed · #**263** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by catzmeow

I have to say, though, that was a kick ass rant by CDP. Even though my boyfriend, who served a year in Tikrit, would totally disagree with it, and thinks we need to get the hell out of dodge, and is voting accordingly.

Me? I'm voting McCain.

I disagree. More of the "you should worship/respect soldiers simply because they are soldiers" nonsense IMO.

catzmeow · #**264** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:17 AM

????WTF????

While I must confess that I occasionally worship my boyfriend, mostly when naked, I respect him for the life he's lived. Not enough to let him dictate my politics to me, of course.

But, he also served in Iraq, and has feelings completely different from those of CDP.

stekim · #**265** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:18 AM

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I have to say, though, that was a kick ass rant by CDP. Even though my boyfriend, who served a year in Tikrit, would totally disagree with it, and thinks we need to get the hell out of dodge, and is voting accordingly.

That means you guys don't have to vote! You cancel one another out.

catzmeow · #**266** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:19 AM

True. But on the off chance that he will forget, I'm definitely voting.

BigRed · #**267** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by catzmeow

????WTF????

While I must confess that I occasionally worship my boyfriend, mostly when naked, I respect him for the life he's lived. Not enough to let him dictate my politics to me, of course.

But, he also served in Iraq, and has feelings completely different from those of CDP.

I was talking about the rant...

Herkdriver · #**268** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by C-D-P

And here is where the sword is double edged.

A person who joins may not agree with present situations, but he does agree with defending America. He may join and not agree with what we are doing now. If that bothers him then he is free to do his time and get out. Or he can stay and stick through it, and defend what he sees is right. Those of you that feel you can not defend he who defends you are cowards. Plain and simple.

You do nothing, and offer nothing. Yet feel free to criticize. While living under the blanket of security that they provide. Be it action here or there, they are providing it. It does not matter if you see them as protecting you. They are. By criticizing them for their service you not only do them a disservice, but you do yourself a disservice.

If you disagree with what is going on in the world, then it is your responsibility to stand out against it. Yet you fail to do so. You sleep safe in your bed and go to school. Then get on the internet and condemn the rough men that do violence on your behalf. You then criticize those in power for doing the same. If you do not believe that they are acting on your behalf then it is up to you to do something about it. Yet you don't. You sit back and boo from the sidelines. Shame on you. So proud to talk smack on the internet where no one knows who you are. Yet so afraid to stand up and do something about something you feel so strongly about. *bleep.*

You want change? Stand the hell up and change something. If you are unwilling to do so then please shut the hell up.

Oh wait..... I forgot, you are going to effect change later, after you are done with college. Yeah good call. Shut up, or do something.

The other day I posted a thread that talked about the run for the warriors Run. That will take place next week. There are at least ten members of this board that live within two hundred miles (ten that I have counted anyway) and not one person from this board has registered, or even commented on that thread. Can't even run a mile for those who have put themselves in harms way? Cowards, The lot of you!

I would rather do something, than do nothing.

You are doing nothing. *bleep*

Excellent post, you've earned a reputation point.

Where is this run?

catzmeow · #**269** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:21 AM

Oh.

Well, i largely agree with the rant. But, aside from all of that, it was just a KICK ASS RANT. Sometimes, you just have to stand back and let the beauty of something wash over you, and just appreciate its glory, whether you agree or not.

And, that was a splendid one.

p.s. I would run, but my knees would never forgive me. However, I'll think of you the next time I get shot at, and we can call it even, aight?

Herkdriver · #**270** (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 11:26 AM

I, for the record,

prefer a peaceful World.

I am morally and ethically against War.

It is ultimately a loss for all those involved.

There are no "winners".

Realistically, in this World...

The Military is both necessary and critical.

The United States best represents the values that I hold also.

These values must be defended.

I considered it a privilege to serve in the U.S. Military, I considered it a privilege to be alongside men and women who also served and are serving, and I consider it a privilege to reside in the United States.

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