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Old 05-19-2008, 07:05 PM
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I agree. If you do not support the mission, then you do not fully support the troops.

Half hearted is not all that great. But it is better than being left out in the cold.

Then again. Most of those that support the troops only support them in word, not in any form of action.
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If you do not support the mission, then you do not fully support the troops.
Then you are saying that General Sanchez and other soldiers who do not support the mission do not support the troops? That is illogical.

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Then again. Most of those that support the troops only support them in word, not in any form of action.
I completely agree with you on that one. How many people who sport yellow ribbons and flags on their vehicles have actually sent a care package to a soldier? A slogan is easy to parrot. Actions show how much a person believes it. Actions such as fixing up Walter Reed show how much a person believes it. Voting for the GI bill in Congress shows how much a person believes in it. If someone in government calls for the rest of us to support the troops, but is content to throw our soldiers away like yesterday's garbage when they come home, then those words "support the troops" ring pretty hollow.

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Hey, Andaras, do you know what the most militarily minded nation in the last 50 years was? Maybe you should ask all the conservatives that supported the Soviet Union.
Don't forget Socialist France. The French rovolutionaries were ruthless militaristic murderers. From that was spawned China, Cuba, North Korea, Cambodia, North Vietnam, Lybia, Syria, Iraq (pre-invasion Hussein Iraq).

The Socialist are infamous for their militarism. These coy attempts to project socialism as something other than pure oppression is just part and parcel of the reason why it's to be avoided. It's one giant lie and it kills everything it touches. So you have to understand that if it advertised itself as doing so, sales would be just that much harder.
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Two points to that:

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Then you are saying that General Sanchez and other soldiers who do not support the mission do not support the troops? That is illogical.
Please read my post again,,,, in full this time. Note the wording. Then get back to me.

If you still have trouble understanding let me know and I will bold the important parts.

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Please read my post again,,,, in full this time. Note the wording. Then get back to me.

If you still have trouble understanding let me know and I will bold the important parts.
OK. I am still having a little trouble understanding. I responded to this part of your post:

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I agree. If you do not support the mission, then you do not fully support the troops.
That, of course, is where I brought up General Sanchez.

Should I have read this in the context of your whole post? Are you therefore saying that it is OK to support the troops without supporting the mission?
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OK. I am still having a little trouble understanding. I responded to this part of your post:



That, of course, is where I brought up General Sanchez.

Should I have read this in the context of your whole post? Are you therefore saying that it is OK to support the troops without supporting the mission?
Here ya go. I will bold it fer ya.

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I agree. If you do not support the mission, then you do not fully support the troops.

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The EU economy is STRONGER than the US economy:
That's funny. It's a suggestion that the EU is a country.


What the EU is not is a sovereign entity. No more so than the UN or NATO are sovereign nations.


What the EU is, is a loosely formed amalgam of socialist nations that will inevitably be consumed by the first power that is of a mind to take it. Most probably Islam. At which time exiled refugees of the individual sovereigns within the EU, will again beg the US to spend life and treasure to crush those that the EU itself convinced that they were ripe for the picking.

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Here ya go. I will bold it fer ya.
I respectfully disagree with you. I do not support the mission, yet I have sent about 2 dozen care packages to various soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last 4 years. Yes, I fully support the troops. I do not support the mission, and would like to see our soldiers come home. I support fixing up Walter Reed. I support making conditions better in our VA hospitals. I support complete physicals for soldiers when they return from a deployment. I support the GI Bill that is working its way through Congress. I support whatever we have to spend on body armor, so that our soldiers' families do not have to go through the hardship of having to purchase it themselves. I support spending whatever it takes to uparmor ALL light vehicles in Iraq. I support our government not sending troops into battle who are not combat ready. I support our soldiers being able to keep their bonuses after they have been wounded.

And General Sanchez, and the others who serve, who do not support the mission? I believe they fully support the troops too, but Sanchez and some others do not believe in the mission either. Again, with all due respect to what you posted, suggesting that people do not fully support the troops because they do not support the mission is an illogical statement.

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And if you do not support the mission, then you can not fully support the troops.
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And if you do not support the mission, then you can not fully support the troops.
I strongly disagree with you on that one, and I always will. Since there seems to be no compromise here from either of us, then we both are going to have to agree to disagree. I also believe General Sanchez is going to disagree with you on this one too.

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That we can do.

But I would like for one person to explain how they think they can fully support us if they do not support what we do?
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