He loves to make of the people that give him the right to do so... ironic...

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Yet, we hold other countries accountable the international body we aren't held accountable to.

Makes sense.

OH! ROFLMNAO… I see the problem; you feel that the UN and its charter equate to legal statute… and apparently that the US forfeited its sovereignty and the rights and duty inherent in that sovereignty when it formed the UN and agreed to abide by the guidelines set forth in its' charter.
ROFL…
I blame myself really; I assumed you were a reasonably intelligent human being with some discernable means to reason... that you would thus recognize that Iraq was in material breach of 1441, along with the half dozen previous sanctions recalled in 1441 and as such, given the UN position prior to the invasion of Iraq, that you would thus recognize that the US acted within the scope of authority on the table at the time...

Of course, the UN Charter is not law... it is a charter by which member states are expected to govern themselves... but law it is not.

Beyond that and sadly for you and your delusion to the contrary, the US does not operate under the authority of the UN Charter; the US operates under the mandates laid down in the US Constitution... That is the ONLY law the US is bound by and even that sacred document and the legal code founded upon it, the rights recognized in and defended by it, are subject to arrest in times of emergency...

Ya see sport, the UN is a debate club within which is a gaggle of sub-species we call "LEFTISTS," of which you are one... who sit around in endless discussions which are inevitably designed to hamstring the US, in one way or another; to tap US resources in terms of treasure or influence and to otherwise set themselves up with one form or another of windfall...

These sad creatures lack the means to reason, thus non-idiots do not require their approval to defend themselves from aggression or the potential thereof... Thus, again with that said... I ask you for a VALID STATUTE which is set upon valid moral justification that would preclude the US from taking action which it sees as necessary to prevent a clear and present danger from promoting circumstances which may lead to an attack on itself, it's interests and allies?

What makes sense is how you and the balance of the leftist on this board can't comprehand simple reason.

The UN is not a world government. It is never goign to be a world government. The UN therefore has no authority which might encumber anyone, BECAUSE the UN has no POWER... the sole source of power in the UN is the US...

Being a member of the UN does not provide that any member state forfeits it's sovereignty; it merely agrees that given the best of circumstances that each member will abide by the guidelines advanced in the Rules established by the UN and under which they operate.

The US invading Iraq is not a violation of ANY UN rule, PERIOD. 1441 laid down the requirements Iraq had to meet to avoid the certain consequences, the US merely carried out those consequences and did so in alliance with a US lead, but international coalition.

Iraq was in material and continuous breach of numerous UN sanctions and when Iraq failed to meet its obligations by the date certain deadline laid down by the UN, the US acted to execute US law and change the regime of Iraq, as well as enforce UN sanctions...

Of course, there is no conclusive evidence that Iraq was directly involved in 9-11; but its 30 year history of using terrorists as proxies against its enemies, along with its beligerent refusal to reject Islamic terrorism and comply with 1441, left the US no choice but to put a boot in their @$$, because it is after all... "The American Way..."

So this feeble attempt to equate the US action to the actions of others is absurd on its face and serves only to promote the interests of the enemies of America...

The UNSC does not establish Law... it has no basis in authority and no power, beyond collective sanctions, by which to enforce any law that it may presumptuously try to enact.

Is English you first language?

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GREAT default concession...

Congrats!

You really don't know what you are talking about.

The terms of the ceasefire following Desert Storm required Iraq to adhere to a No-Fly Zone over the Kurdish region of Iraq. It required Saddam to fully disclose all of his WMD programs and munitions. He did neither. It's simple math, and the legality of the war has nothing to do with how the invasion was sold to the American public.

Save your tests for your kindergarten friends. Again, anyone who lies to accuse others of being a propagandist, is a propagandist himself, in my view.

I see you are having difficulty distinguishing between speech and action. We are talking about a soldier's pledge to serve his country, an oath to perform certain actions in behalf of the nation that has given him all of his liberties and freedoms. That soldier may voice his disagreement with that nation's political positions as much as he wants, but if he refuses to fulfill his oath, then he is a deserter.

Maybe you were. But I can tell you have a little trouble following a single trend of thought. The title of this thread is about our soldiers in the armed forces.

Or perhaps he can claim little devils whispered naughty things in his ear and made him sign up. Right.

Why didn't they use their mind before they took the oath? Well, perhaps their minds were as impaired as your own....

Nope, sorry. The world doesn't revolve around you. I was speaking of the men that served in the armed forces, and the cowards who break their oath when they are sent to fulfill that oath.

Let me refer you to the title of this thread and the opening post. I hope this isn't too much of a wake-up call for your humble faculties.

Read the transcripts of the Abu Graib trial. No one was ordered to torture anyone. Of course, if you prefer to make up facts to support your specious conclusions, who am I to get in the way?

I have an analogy for you: False claims are to Tuatara as feathers to a duck.

(Sigh) This is called an "Either-Or" reasoning error, Tuatara. It occurs when someone gives you only two choices when actually more choices are available. I'm sure you know, that nearly 100 percent of America's armed forces do not kill babies, and yet somehow -I'm sure miraculously in your eyes- manage to fulfill their oaths to their nation.

Where is this lie you accuse me of? I stated some people cannot recognize propaganda and I threw in some examples.
Excuse me. You responded to my post which I was discussing not only the military personnel but people's views on the military. Now if you can't comprehend what I'm saying I suggest you go back to school and take remedial comprehension skills.
Again, is this your way of evading everything I say. I know what the title of the thread is and it is about the opinion of how a civilian feels about the soldiers. Are you keeping up with it? Pure dishonesty on your part.
He can claim whatever he wants. I was talking about my viewpoints. You really do have a hard time following.
Too much propaganda and military gushing by your nation. Look at how many have a hard on for them here.
When you quote someone and respond to them it is only normal that one assumes you are talking about the subject you quoted. If this is too hard for you do I suggest maybe only responding to introduction threads or less complicated posts.
Wow...I'm really shocked here. You have absolutely no clue how to carry on a simple conversation. Did you see that. I was talking about you. Not the soldiers or what they feel or what their opinion is.
I have, I know a whitewash when I see one.
http://www.ghostsofabughraib.org/blog/
Another evasion. Keep clucking.

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