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I ask that you read this article , I believe this person is so full of hate for the USA , unbelievable! Caution it has bad Language .

(*)(*)(*)(*) THE TROOPS
A Beastly Opinion


By Ian Murphy

So, 4000 rubes are dead. Cry me the Tigris. Another 30,000 have been seriously wounded. Boo (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hoo. They got what they asked for—and cool robotic limbs, too.

Likely, just reading the above paragraph made you uncomfortable. But why?

The benevolence of America’s “troops” is sacrosanct. Questioning their rectitude simply isn’t done. It’s the forbidden zone. We may rail against this tragic war, but our soldiers are lauded by all as saints. Why? They volunteered to partake in this savage idiocy, and for this they deserve our utmost respect? I think not.

The nearly two-thirds of us who know this war is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) need to stop sucking off the troops. They get enough action raping female soldiers and sodomizing Iraqi detainees. The political left is intent on “supporting” the troops by bringing them home, which is a good thing. But after rightly denouncing the administration’s lies and condemning this awful war, relatively sensible pundits—like Keith Olbermann—turn around and lovingly praise the soldiers’ brave service to the country. Why?


The rest of this idiots ranting are here

http://www.buffalobeast.com/126/(*)(...an.Murphy.html
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You're link took me to nothing, am interested in reading it could you re-post it.
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I don't agree with this person with regards to not giving a crap if the soldiers are being killed and/or wounded.

However, that being said, there is something interesting to be discussed here: The worship in our culture of the soldier. It is odd. Adds more credibility to the fact that we are a warrior nation and hold the soldier to high esteem.

And I can't say I support the troops because if I don't support the politician for sending the troops to a destination for an objective I don't agree with, I can't support the people performing the actual action of it. I know I will get heat for it, but I don't really care. People have been brought up to love the soldier know matter what and that is just wrong. I cannot support a people that willfully engage in something fundamentally incorrect and immoral.

Going back to an early discussion, a standing military is not necessary. Regular Americans could easily thwart almost any invasion. As for regular threats from rogue nations or aggressive nations, the mere fact that we could kill every man, woman and child anywhere on this Earth; well let's just say I don't think anyone would mess with us.

Terrorist attacks are a bit different. But a standing army won't thwart that either. Foreign policy changes will.

Nonetheless, back to the original intent of my post. I don't wish death upon soldiers by any means. But I also don't wish death upon innocent civilians.
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You're link took me to nothing, am interested in reading it could you re-post it.
the link doesn't take because of the f word in the link the filters must take it out anyways google the troops Ian Murphy
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the link doesn't take because of the f word in the link the filters must take it out anyways google the troops Ian Murphy
I got it.

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A USA Today/Gallup Poll indicated that 75% of Americans felt the U.S. did not make a mistake in sending troops to Iraq in March 2003. However, according to the same poll retaken in April 2007, 58% of the participants stated that the initial attack was a mistake.[1] In May, 2007, the New York Times and CBS News released similar results of a poll in which 61% of participants believed the U.S. "should have stayed out" of Iraq.
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Seven months prior to the September 11 attacks a Gallup poll showed that 52% would favor an invasion of Iraq while 42% would oppose it.
Polls are always suspect but I think from my recollection this is true.

At the time the war started public opinion was in favor of the War, now that
many people disagree whe should be turning our backs on our troops. I
agree that we as a people are too fascinated with our military, but our soldiers are doing what "we" not just our politicians asked them to do. This "journalist" (and I use that term lightly) can demonize our politicians, and our soldiers if he wants to, but he is a hypocrite if he doesn't include us all in his rant. In 2003 our people were for the war, right or wrong. When we believe in something our soldiers are heroes, but when we change our mind they should be labeled monsters, I have friends and family in Iraq right now, none of them are monsters.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...vasion_of_Iraq
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The worship in our culture of the soldier. It is odd. Adds more credibility to the fact that we are a warrior nation and hold the soldier to high esteem.


It's odd? it's odd that america was founded on the beliefe that
freedom does not come FREE? it's odd that those who fight
for it are Hero's to Americans? unlike Europeans we are
thankful to those who risk their lives, so we may be free.



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The worship in our culture of the soldier. It is odd. Adds more credibility to the fact that we are a warrior nation and hold the soldier to high esteem.


It's odd? it's odd that america was founded on the beliefe that
freedom does not come FREE? it's odd that those who fight
for it are Hero's to Americans? unlike Europeans we are
thankful to those who risk their lives, so we may be free.



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A soldier since WW2 has not fought for my freedom.

I don't buy the propaganda sir.
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I have no interest in reading anymore of that mans work, I have to much respect for myself, and the families of the dead and injured.

I do not agree with the war.
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Blaming our soldiers for carrying out their duty is pathetic. If you disagree with the war, the one to blame is the one who made the decision, not the ones who are fighting and dying because of that decision.
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Blaming our soldiers for carrying out their duty is pathetic. If you disagree with the war, the one to blame is the one who made the decision, not the ones who are fighting and dying because of that decision.
What kind of duty is it to follow an order that is incorrect?

They don't have to fight. They don't have to die.
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