ANY product?

So the government would control everything? What if you really needed a T.V but they said you don't?

Whats going to stop people who (and there always will be) who think they deserve more than everybody else? perhaps alot more? or work harder than those around them and don't think it's right to give away everything they made so they can get less mixed goods in return?

What about if there sweat is bigger or there labor larger?

Any product the society is capable of producing in sufficient quantity, which isn't exactly hard. And you can also make a trade exchange with a foreign country for that product, you obviously can't trade in the usual way (with money), you would have to trade direct - ie product-for-product.


How would the government control everything? Is that what I said? NO.
What I said is that in socialism, which is a transition period, the 'state' would be very limited to ensuring criminal activity didn't happen and that a barter economy didn't start up etc. The government would not 'force' anyone to give up their products, the person simply wouldn't be allowed to have access to anyone elses products if they DIDN'T MAKE HIS OWN AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY, that's where the individual incentive lies in socialism.

It's a mandate and a mutual agreement, I agree to provide the products of my labor (those which are an excess over what I want of them) to the community, and in return the community makes it's products available to me.

This is where your argument goes awry, there is massive resources in production in modern industrial society, poverty comes from capitalist imposition over people's labor. Equality comes from individualism, and collectivism comes from individualism, this is because the base-point of the community in socialism is every individual providing their products because if they do they get access to everyone else's products.


What do you mean exactly?

There are so many things wrong with that. Why do you think money came into existence, direst trade is not fair and is inefficient. There are many forms of wealth that you cannot store. Money is both a store of value and a method of exact exchange. Product-for-product trading is a remnant of the stone age. Next you'll be saying that everybody should produce everything they need for themselves and we should end the division of labor that makes a modern life possible through efficiency.

So basically the incentive is for those people who have nothing to lose. Nice.

That is not a fair exchange.

HA HA HA. While you actually know the real arguments behind socialism, I still think they're hilarious. At least you're not ignorant.

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How self-righteously defeatist of you!

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