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False pretenses is the dems word for "best available intel at the time". Don't forget we weren't the only one's that claimed Saddam was in posession of WMD's
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.......................miss that.........? BTW I am a CONSERVATIVE

I would have never been able to tell! I recently changed Political affiliations.
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False pretenses is the dems word for "best available intel at the time". Don't forget we weren't the only one's that claimed Saddam was in posession of WMD's
Just watch Bushes war / PBS special. Or is that Biased as well? There was a plan to go in there no matter if 911 happened or not! One day the truth will be evident and all those who reject the truth will just find a way to deflect what was truly a major mistake with ulterior motives not shared with the rest of the class.
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If me telling you that PBS is a leftist organization paid for out of the public coffers is news to you then you may want to open your eyes and ears a little wider when watching TV, instead of just taking television at face value. But I should have been able to deduce that critical thinking skills wasn't part of your skill set, you are after all a Jets fan. (j/k) =)
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Democrats haven't been "democrats" since JFK. They're "neo-socialists." They're all about a MASSIVE Government that allows it's subjec..err...citizens to suckle off it, like little piglets. They want all your money, and in exchange, will tell you how, where and why to spend it.

"Freedom" and "Democrat" are now tragic antonyms. They two do not co-exist.

EDIT: Before you start piling on me about Bush's big government, make sure you bring me ONE example of ANY democrat who wishes to "shrink" government. If anything, democrats are jealous of Bush because he grew the government faster than they could.
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If me telling you that PBS is a leftist organization paid for out of the public coffers is news to you then you may want to open your eyes and ears a little wider when watching TV, instead of just taking television at face value. But I should have been able to deduce that critical thinking skills wasn't part of your skill set, you are after all a Jets fan. (j/k) =)
exactly! Look; the program is filled with interviews with Democrats and Republicans. If you cant take the word of the pricipals involved , then you never will . Oh by the Way J.E.T.S. Dont be hatin!
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"Freedom" and "Democrat" are now tragic antonyms. They two do not co-exist.
Not completely true. We still support allowing individual freedom to choose whether to use recreational drugs or not, to remain free from religious rhetoric, and to have whatever sexual relations is agreeable with one's partner. However, as time has progressed past the time of "rugged individualism" into the modern era of social responsibility, freedom and liberty must be sacrificed to the greater good.

Universal healthcare, environmental controls, energy conservation, housing needs, and fair dispersement of wealth all require sacrifice of freedoms, but are employed for the good of the masses. How much "freedom" do you think you actually have?

Democrats recognize that things have grown much too important to be left up to the whims of individuals. Get over it.

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Democrats haven't been "democrats" since JFK. They're "neo-socialists." They're all about a MASSIVE Government that allows it's subjec..err...citizens to suckle off it, like little piglets. They want all your money, and in exchange, will tell you how, where and why to spend it.

"Freedom" and "Democrat" are now tragic antonyms. They two do not co-exist.

EDIT: Before you start piling on me about Bush's big government, make sure you bring me ONE example of ANY democrat who wishes to "shrink" government. If anything, democrats are jealous of Bush because he grew the government faster than they could.
You puzzle me! You state things from time to time, which make total sense. Then you rip out this nonsense that is opinion displayed as fact. Government is an 800 pound gorilla in the room and he wants bananas. Government can’t be shrunk without leaving scores of people out in the cold. That’s not about to happen Democrat or Republican. Sorry to let you in on the secret but there are Millions of people within the United States that can’t survive without the help of government. Is this the fault of millions of lazy people who want to collect a welfare check or hard working Americans that cannot make ends meat because their job is in India now! I personally do not have the true answer to my own question. Neither do you! If you understand the inherent nature of Government's then you would understand that it cannot be downsized! If you have a suggestion for shrinking Government, then out with it. Can we deport Americans?
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I'm sorry Republicans but the fact remains that you cannot have a large war abroad and lower taxes otherwise you end up with a huge deficit.

Why haven't the democrats done anything? They only have a small majority and BUsh vetoes most things that come through. Isn't democracy meant to work the ebst this way? If one party controls the legislature and the other the Presidency? Bush proves us all wrong though....
Sorry, but lower taxes= more government revenue. The belief that the government makes more money by raising taxes is such a common misconception, it's ridiculous.
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Sorry, but lower taxes= more government revenue. The belief that the government makes more money by raising taxes is such a common misconception, it's ridiculous.
You said it better than I would. Moreover we already have a deficit, but the fact is most of what we owe, we owe to our own citizenry.
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