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In another thread MasTequila was questioning the actions of the US as if he has been totally ignorant to the charges against the US for doing evil things. Whether one agrees with them or not I'm sure every poster here has learned of US sponsored and supported terrorism, CIA led death squads, covert drug operations, false flag operations, assassinations and coups, outing democratically elected leaders and propping up murderous dictators. There are far too many instances for me to list in any kind of coherent order but here are a few.

US acts of terrorism against Cuba 1959-2000
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep.../Cuba.htm#1959
http://www.cubaminrex.cu/English/Foc...n%20August.htm
http://www.voltairenet.org/article132624.html
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662
http://www.ain.cu/patriotas2/escalaing/terroring1.htm

Assassination attempts against Castro
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006...uncancampbell2
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/inde...sination_Plots

U.S. opens "School of Assassins" in Panama in 1946
http://www.derechos.org/wi/1/5.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Terrorism/SOA.html


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CIA is involved in a coup to overthrow nationalist Primeminister Dr. Muhammed Mossadeq in Iran. Supports Iranian military in massacre of Mossadeq supporters and returns the Shah to power. In 1976, Amnesty International concluded that the Shah's CIA-trained security force, SAVAK, had the worst human rights record on the planet, and that the number and variety of torture techniques the CIA had taught SAVAK were "beyond belief." 1951-CIA involved in terror campaign against democratically elected Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala. After Arbenz government is overthrown, CIA backed regimes murder more than 100,000 Guatemalans over the next 40 years
CIA is involved in a coup to overthrow Primeminister Dr. Muhammed Mossadeq in Iran 1953
http://www.hirhome.com/iraniraq/iran-coup.htm
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Ir...'%C3%A9tat

US Supports Iranian military in massacre of Mossadeq supporters
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ze...Boomerang.html

CIA coup in Guatemala
http://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilre...guatemala.html
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/

Torture techniques taught by the CIA to Savak
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CI...n_CIAHits.html
http://www.intmag.org/interviews.php?itemid=2732

The CIA have South Vietnemese president Ngo Dinh Diem overthrown and assasinated for supporting negotiations with the north
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB101/index.htm
http://library2.usask.ca/vietnam/ind...=NGO+DINH+DIEM

CIA recruits Iraqi Baath Party to assassinate Abdul-Karim Kassem
C.I.A. involved in plot to assassinate Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt
http://www.joinercenter.umb.edu/Publ...t%20Primer.htm
http://www.krysstal.com/display_acts...ncountry=-Iraq

During the 1980s the US would help provide weapons to both Iraq and Iran in a war that would kill over one million people.
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/a...rming_iraq.php
http://www.counterpunch.org/boles1010.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair

CIA provokes a coup that leads to the overthrow of Indonesian leader Sukarno, who is replaced by General Suharto. In the following weeks between 500,000 and one million people are murdered by death squads using lists provided by US State Department. 1965
http://www.namebase.org/kadane.html
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=1603
http://www.wsws.org/articles/1999/ju...-j19_prn.shtml

Brief overview of many more:
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After interfering in Chilean elections in 1958 and 1964, the CIA begins a campaign of sabotage and terror after leftist Salvadore Allende is elected president in 1970. In 1973, a CIA supported coup overthrew and assassinated Allende and installed fascist General Pinochet, resulting in thousands of murders over the next two decades. This year in France, former U.S. secretary of state, Henry Kissinger was served a (mostly symbolic) warrant for arrest as a war criminal for his role in the coup.
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After Nicaraguan dictator Samosa is overthrown in 1979, the CIA helps to train Samosa's National Guard into death squads known as the Contras. The Contras are used to terrorize rural Nicaragua while the US military blockades Nicaragua's harbors with mines. In 1989, after 10,000 deaths, the US is successful in ousting the Sandanista government. 1979
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1989- US invades Panama to overthrow and "arrest" Manuel Noriega, who has been on the CIA payroll since 1966 and supported through decades of drug running, political assassination and corrupt elections. After the invasion, which included the fire bombing of an entire urban ghetto, human rights observers uncover mass graves and estimate that over 4,000 died during the invasion.
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1991- US and allies (mostly Britain) invade Iraq after U.S./CIA supported Saddam Hussein invades Kuwait. 200,000 Iraqis are killed, including over 400 civilians killed by two U.S. missiles in the Al-Amerya air shelter. Over the next 10 years another 400 tons of explosives will be dropped on Iraq killing another 300 civilians, and hundreds of thousands more starved through U.S. imposed sanctions. The U.S. forces Saudi Arabia to allow thousands of U.S. military to remain indefinitely within its borders.
http://theinsurgent.net/index.php?vo...ticle=usterror
http://grym.gnn.tv/blogs/8323/A_Brie...rism_1951_2002
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2002...ful-Nation.htm

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U.S. army has trained more than 10,000 Colombian troops at the SOA and many of its graduates have been linked to right-wing paramilitary death squads responsible for a huge majority of Colombia's human rights abuses.
http://www.colombiajournal.org/colombia109.htm
http://www.terrorfileonline.org/en/index.php/Links

US Kidnaps Democratically Elected Leader in Haiti 2004
http://www.oldamericancentury.org/aristide.htm
http://www.nlg.org/news/articles/cohn_haiti.htm


CIA Death Squads in Bolivia, Angola, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, South Korea, Iran, Chile, Uruguay, Nicaragua, Brazil, Cambodia, Columbia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Eastern Europe, East Timor, Ecuador, Egypt, Pakistan, Honduras, Indonesia, Iran, Philippines, Paraguay...
http://www.totse.com/en/politics/cen...cy/166983.html
Seriously. I have only scratched the surface.

MasTequila, to be involved in politics and unaware of any of these acts shows a high level of ignorance. It baffles me beyond words.
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Tuatara,

I think you started a minimum of 12 threads in just this one. Good luck!
I haven't even touched on US support of Apartheid, the CIA Trafficking of drugs, the invasion of Grenada, the support of Israel, the
US bombings and invasions of over 30 countries, information and arms support to other terrorist groups, US harbouring of known terrorists...etc

Like I said, I only scratched the surface.
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In another thread MasTequila was questioning the actions of the US as if he has been totally ignorant to the charges against the US for doing evil things. Whether one agrees with them or not I'm sure every poster here has learned of US sponsored and supported terrorism, CIA led death squads, covert drug operations, false flag operations, assassinations and coups, outing democratically elected leaders and propping up murderous dictators. There are far too many instances for me to list in any kind of coherent order but here are a few.

US acts of terrorism against Cuba 1959-2000
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep.../Cuba.htm#1959That is war not terrorism, the next instance the US was asked for and gave help,
http://www.cubaminrex.cu/English/Foc...n%20August.htmThis post while long has plans captured & 3 attacks that originated from US soil with one being labeled as originating from a Cuban, the other 2 which are attacks by plane do not define as US orchestrated just that they came from the US.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article132624.htmlA site owned and operated by Thierry meyssan, a conspiratorial nut that bashes America.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/A site that talks about a plan to invade Cuba but does not talk of any terrorist activity
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662Again a story on a drafted plan but provides no proof of terrorism, just plans for. Planned in the 60's during Kennedy Presidency for you leftys.
http://www.ain.cu/patriotas2/escalaing/terroring1.htmThis is a cuban news agency, and communism and free press go hand in hand now don't they

Assassination attempts against Castro
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006...uncancampbell2Nice sight with some interesting ways to assassinate someone.
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/inde...sination_Plots

U.S. opens "School of Assassins" in Panama in 1946
http://www.derechos.org/wi/1/5.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Terrorism/SOA.html
My question is how does this prove anything, we train people some of whom go off the deep end. This is our problem, why? I notice there is no list of the hundreds if not thousands that came out and were beneficial. Also the US has a responsibility to its citizenry to protect it from threats around us. Look at how we have castrated Canada.


CIA is involved in a coup to overthrow Primeminister Dr. Muhammed Mossadeq in Iran 1953
http://www.hirhome.com/iraniraq/iran-coup.htm
http://www.iranchamber.com/history/coup53/coup53p1.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Ir...'%C3%A9tat
Interesting take on the history, but leaving out what actually happened. In the 40's Great Britain and Russia removed the leader of Iran because of they felt that he supported Germany, the leader that was put in place asked for help because the Prime Minister was seeking to overthrow him and turn the country into a communist regime. We assisted the leader of the country
US Supports Iranian military in massacre of Mossadeq supporters
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Ze...Boomerang.htmlSo? How does that make us terrorists? I don't see Canada stepping in to stop anything.
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A lot of posts that have proved nothing. I will stop asking you for links. But based on your reading material and lack of ability to filter through, I now understand your position.
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Evil things? Evil is a relative term.

I mean are you reading about the folks that are being removed/or attempted to be removed from power you linked? Most of them famously corrupt and a detriments to the human race.

In fact I hear the liberals say all the time,it was fine to take out Saddam we shouldnt have stayed though.Or theyve got enough safety now,bring the troops home,lets them sort it out.Well Ive got news for you,that pretty much what happened in most of those operations.'Evil' guys removed and let the chips fall where they may,no concern about vacuum left over.

Now Bush is not taking that route and you mock him for it.(*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you do,(*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you dont.

I wonder how much 'evil' the US will be exporting to Myanmars tragic cyclone victims?
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Evil things? Evil is a relative term.

I mean are you reading about the folks that are being removed/or attempted to be removed from power you linked? Most of them famously corrupt and a detriments to the human race.

In fact I hear the liberals say all the time,it was fine to take out Saddam we shouldnt have stayed though.Or theyve got enough safety now,bring the troops home,lets them sort it out.Well Ive got news for you,that pretty much what happened in most of those operations.'Evil' guys removed and let the chips fall where they may,no concern about vacuum left over.

Now Bush is not taking that route and you mock him for it.(*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you do,(*)(*)(*)(*)ed if you dont.

I wonder how much 'evil' the US will be exporting to Myanmars tragic cyclone victims?
The guy is from (c)anada, give him a break. He doesn't understand anything that is not done for him. He listed 300 links that don't back up his argument to try to make himself look right. Some of the links were propaganda sites while others just detailed plans the US had. Like taking a giant mollusk and painting it with bright colors so that when Castro was scuba diving he would notice it and swim towards it, at which point we would blow him up.
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