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Old 06-04-2008, 06:42 PM
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The last time America did that? Well supporting (and arming, and financing) Suharto's Indonesia as they committed mass killing in East Timor from the invasion in 1975 to the withdrawal in 1999 springs to mind.. Does that count? Seems fairly recent, I'm sure there's more.
Good point. However this does not continue, provide a recent example.....

Africa will once again be looked at by the Superpowers to give resources, they already do this for the West and now it is switching to China. There will be a scurry for resources. However China is already starting this by supporting Sudan. You see, China is insidiously spreading themselves throughout Africa in order to obtain resources.
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at least China hasn't got your crazy foreign policy.
That is honestly the craziest thing I've heard all day.

The sole purpose of the Communist regime is to expand, conquer, and exploit with the guise of liberation from capitalism. They're a bunch of pseudo-Communist psychotic aggressors who are intent on getting as much money for themselves as physically possible. Compare Iraq to this and there is no comparison. The original mission was one of peace, stability, and self-defense.
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That is honestly the craziest thing I've heard all day.

The sole purpose of the Communist regime is to expand, conquer, and exploit with the guise of liberation from capitalism.
China is a very capitalist society, the current leadership espouses no such 'lets free the world from capitalism' rhetoric. You must be thinking of Mao.

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They're a bunch of pseudo-Communist psychotic aggressors who are intent on getting as much money for themselves as physically possible.
Replace 'pseudo-Communist' with 'openly capitalist', as China more or less is. Oh and now that sentence perfectly describes the US also, incidently. And I don't see why a capitalist such as yourself should have any problem with them wanting 'as much money as physically possible'? Surely the market will decide?

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Compare Iraq to this and there is no comparison. The original mission was one of peace, stability, and self-defense.
That's obviously nonsense. The US government knew Iraq had no (functional) WMDs, was no threat to the US, and was in fact a hostile environment for Al-Qaeda as Hussein was a secular leader who was very fond of stability, for all his numerous shortcomings.
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China is a very capitalist society, the current leadership espouses no such 'lets free the world from capitalism' rhetoric. You must be thinking of Mao.
China is quite capitalist, of course, but they do continue with the rhetoric, and the aggression.

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Replace 'pseudo-Communist' with 'openly capitalist', as China more or less is. Oh and now that sentence perfectly describes the US also, incidently. And I don't see why a capitalist such as yourself should have any problem with them wanting 'as much money as physically possible'? Surely the market will decide?
The free-market and national aggression are incompatible with one another. Desire for profit does not supersede stability, morality, or freedom.

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That's obviously nonsense. The US government knew Iraq had no (functional) WMDs, was no threat to the US, and was in fact a hostile environment for Al-Qaeda as Hussein was a secular leader who was very fond of stability, for all his numerous shortcomings.
Then it was all a grand conspiracy then, wasn't it.

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That is honestly the craziest thing I've heard all day.

The sole purpose of the Communist regime is to expand, conquer, and exploit with the guise of liberation from capitalism. They're a bunch of pseudo-Communist psychotic aggressors who are intent on getting as much money for themselves as physically possible. Compare Iraq to this and there is no comparison. The original mission was one of peace, stability, and self-defense.
Which is all a bunch of hogwash.

Our foreign policy of interventionism has been detrimental to the American people for a very, very long time.
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It's a good thing we have people like White Fox to elect politicians who interfere with business which isn't ours to interfere with. We didn't have to interfere in Iraq, Vietnam, Greece, or any of the territiories that America currently possesses. And by the way Communism is not a form of government, it's an economic system. Only dictators which happen to have communist society are expansionist, but hey, I seem to remember a little country that tried to expand their political influence into China during their revolt. How is telling people they can't have the economic system they want a Democratic notion?
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It's a good thing we have people like White Fox to elect politicians who interfere with business which isn't ours to interfere with.
If I have ever been guilty of that in my entire life, then God, please strike me down before Thee.

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