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Old 05-11-2008, 03:26 AM
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With the amount of school shootings in your country how the hell can yuo be against giving the students guns?!?
What an odd way for the debate to mutate, as though thats the 1st logical step. You know we had a school attack recenytly here too chief, only they were armed with baseball bats. Guess how many people didn't die? Thats right, all of them.

What a lovely learning enviroment, armed to the teeth and worried about every other person shooting you. Good thing its such a stable and non-hormonal place right? Hate to tell you guys, but the bad guy will still get the 1st shot.
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Yeah I agree. I dont really think arming every student is the best way to prevent shootings lol.
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What an odd way for the debate to mutate, as though thats the 1st logical step. You know we had a school attack recenytly here too chief, only they were armed with baseball bats. Guess how many people didn't die? Thats right, all of them.
Just because you got shot doesn't mean your going to die. Just like a 6 year old kid being beaten by 20 guys with baseball bats ontop of broken glass also is more likely to survive the ordeal.

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What a lovely learning enviroment, armed to the teeth and worried about every other person shooting you. Good thing its such a stable and non-hormonal place right? Hate to tell you guys, but the bad guy will still get the 1st shot.
He won't get the next 20 though and thats were it counts.

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I always think you'd gone from best scenario- no-one dieing- to atleast one, probably two- the traditional shooter gets shot down by his armed class mates certainly, and presumably like I said the shooter must reveal homocidal intent by, you know, shooting someone...I can also picture the socially isolated being sources of paranoia for their peers, and those peers might eventually embrace Bush's doctrine of premtive strikes...
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I wouldn't give guns to students in OUR country we've never had a school shooting.



He won't get the next 20 though and thats were it counts.


So what your essentially saying is that even though one kid gets killed, you still get the bad guy in the end when the other 20 kids in the classroom open fire on him??


Hey I can see the possibilities, kind of a proactive approach to getting rid of violent criminals before they reach adulthood.

I say take it a step further and put guns at every table at a restaurant. You know, the bottle of heinz, the salt and pepper shakers, a 9mm, the menus and the silverware.

Oh and dont forget to have a gun in every telephone booth.

Airport security?? Hey instead of giving the employees the metal detectors just give them guns. If they find a gun on someone just shoot them and assume they were guilty since they were stupid enough to try to bring a gun on a plane in this day and age.

Teachers?? yep arm them. Sure there might be some collateral damage, but hey the class clown was gonna grow up to collect a welfare check anyways right?? Might as well take them out. We may be lacking in good comedy movies down the road but hey its a small sacrifice right??

Nurses?? DEFINITELY arm them. The way that some people treat them is awful. I figure if they start taking out some of these annoying patients who just have minor injuries that it will speed up our wait times at the hospital. Yeah it may be a bit messy, but im a glass half full type of guy....You will have MORE than enough reserves of blood for blood transfusions and what not.

Criminals?? YEP I would arm them too. Now not normally, however I would arm them the day of their court dates...But only with ONE bullet. That way after they are found guilty they can off their lawyer. So BOOM...one less lawyer to deal with, then because they just killed someone in cold blood in front of an entire courtroom we can give them the death penalty and since the murder was in plain sight it will speed up the process because an appeal will be worthless....And hey you kill two birds with one stone.

Hey call me crazy, but im seeing some possibilities here.





im j/k btw......kind of. lol.
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I always think you'd gone from best scenario- no-one dieing- to atleast one, probably two- the traditional shooter gets shot down by his armed class mates certainly, and presumably like I said the shooter must reveal homocidal intent by, you know, shooting someone...I can also picture the socially isolated being sources of paranoia for their peers, and those peers might eventually embrace Bush's doctrine of premtive strikes...
Nah..

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So what your essentially saying is that even though one kid gets killed, you still get the bad guy in the end when the other 20 kids in the classroom open fire on him??
I wouldn't be trying to 'get' the bad guy simple to reduce casualties and preserve life.

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Hey I can see the possibilities, kind of a proactive approach to getting rid of violent criminals before they reach adulthood.
I guess lol.

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I say take it a step further and put guns at every table at a restaurant. You know, the bottle of heinz, the salt and pepper shakers, a 9mm, the menus and the silverware.
Good idea!

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Oh and dont forget to have a gun in every telephone booth.
Could help a little i guess..

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Airport security?? Hey instead of giving the employees the metal detectors just give them guns. If they find a gun on someone just shoot them and assume they were guilty since they were stupid enough to try to bring a gun on a plane in this day and age.
Thats vigilante justice i wouldn't recommend it.

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Teachers?? yep arm them. Sure there might be some collateral damage, but hey the class clown was gonna grow up to collect a welfare check anyways right?? Might as well take them out. We may be lacking in good comedy movies down the road but hey its a small sacrifice right??
I wouldn't suggest actively culling trouble makers.

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Nurses?? DEFINITELY arm them. The way that some people treat them is awful. I figure if they start taking out some of these annoying patients who just have minor injuries that it will speed up our wait times at the hospital. Yeah it may be a bit messy, but im a glass half full type of guy....You will have MORE than enough reserves of blood for blood transfusions and what not.
Euthanasias a different issue lol

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Criminals?? YEP I would arm them too. Now not normally, however I would arm them the day of their court dates...But only with ONE bullet. That way after they are found guilty they can off their lawyer. So BOOM...one less lawyer to deal with, then because they just killed someone in cold blood in front of an entire courtroom we can give them the death penalty and since the murder was in plain sight it will speed up the process because an appeal will be worthless....And hey you kill two birds with one stone.
You don't need to arm criminals.. there already armed silly!
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Nah..



I wouldn't be trying to 'get' the bad guy simple to reduce casualties and preserve life.



I guess lol.



Good idea!



Could help a little i guess..



Thats vigilante justice i wouldn't recommend it.



I wouldn't suggest actively culling trouble makers.



Euthanasias a different issue lol



You don't need to arm criminals.. there already armed silly!



I was obviously just joking....

But hey I still like the idea of getting rid of the lawyers. lol.
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Yeah I agree. I dont really think arming every student is the best way to prevent shootings lol.
But it is the beautiful solution.
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I always think you'd gone from best scenario- no-one dieing- to atleast one, probably two- the traditional shooter gets shot down by his armed class mates certainly, and presumably like I said the shooter must reveal homocidal intent by, you know, shooting someone...I can also picture the socially isolated being sources of paranoia for their peers, and those peers might eventually embrace Bush's doctrine of premtive strikes...
Homicidal intent is shown by being the first one to unholster your weapon.
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Oh good Spanky, watch your Uni results plummet and overseas students dry up when the place of highest learning becomes your cliched Old Western Saloon scene.

Shifty eyes between book covers, one hand by your hip and another on the pen. Careful what you say in Art class- "Draw" might just result in a spontaneous piece about man's inhumanity to man.

And don't keep your reading glasses on the inside of your coat...
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