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Old 05-13-2008, 10:54 AM
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1. I never said that.
2. Should someone support a "racist agenda", i.e. Jim Crow laws, then I think one can conclude that person is very likely a racist. But, as has been mentioned numerous times, affirmative action is not a "racist agenda" designed to keep whitey down, so the question is not germaine to this thread. And if AA is indeed designed to keep whitey down, it's clearly not working very well!

Jim Crow meets the definition of racist. Affirmative action does not. Both are wrong, but only one is racist.
Certainly one opinion, but inaccurate! It is a racist program by virtue of its favoring one race over another. That is all that is required to make it a racist program.

Its not designed to keep whitey down? Well now, that is all a matter of perspective isn't it!!!

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It is a racist program by virtue of its favoring one race over another. That is all that is required to make it a racist program.
So you say. The dictionary disagrees. You need to take that up with them, not me. I don't define words or make up my own definitions. Racism, discrimination and bigotry are three different words that you want to make into one word. Oddly, just like black leaders do. You all have that in common. It's racism even if it's not racism.
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So you say. The dictionary disagrees. You need to take that up with them, not me. I don't define words or make up my own definitions. Racism, discrimination and bigotry are three different words that you want to make into one word. Oddly, just like black leaders do. You all have that in common. It's racism even if it's not racism.
Wrong again!

"Prejudice or discrimination based on an individual's race; can be expressed individually or through institutional policies or practices. ..."

"Discrimination or prejudice based on race"

Look up the definition of Discrimination! Affirmative Action discriminates by favoring blacks and other minorities over whites.

Looks like I am now the logic police!
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discrimination == racism
Discrimination on the basis of race is racism, just like murder on the basis of race is racism. Making any decisions on the basis of race is racism.
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If I decide to wear more sunblock because I'm white, does that make me racist?


(I thought racism is the belief that your race is superior to other races, what your talking about sounds more like bigotry.)
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If I decide to wear more sunblock because I'm white, does that make me racist?


(I thought racism is the belief that your race is superior to other races, what your talking about sounds more like bigotry.)
Am I the only one who finds it odd that a person of any race other than caucasian can express pride in their race or ethnicity and society applauds them for it, but if a caucasian expresses the same, they are chastized severely!
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If I decide to wear more sunblock because I'm white, does that make me racist?


(I thought racism is the belief that your race is superior to other races, what your talking about sounds more like bigotry.)
I just went with what the dictionary definitions said.
Discrimination on the basis of race is racism. Affirmative action is therefore a racist program!
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If I decide to wear more sunblock because I'm white, does that make me racist?


(I thought racism is the belief that your race is superior to other races, what your talking about sounds more like bigotry.)
I don't really think you can be racist against yourself. I think the term is also used when it is solely based on race. This is a practical decision; white people get sunburned a lot easier than black people. If I had to higher life guards or undercover agents to work in other countries in night-time espionage missions I would prefer to hire black people because this represents a practical decision that is based on the color of their skin. I would not call this racism however, it would be racist if I didn't want to hire a black person to run a store or something like that.
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So how come when we profile based on rase (even though facst show that certain races commit more of certain types of crimes than other) is this racism
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