There are a lot of them, and they are stupid, making them susceptible to mob psychology. Some demagogue comes along who promises them the moon if they will only elect him and support him without question comes along. He gets elected and then, with the support of the people, destroys the democratic government to mobilize the country to take the moon. By now he has the military and the police force under his control and all the liberty loving conservatives are outnumbered and helpless.

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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.

--Murray Rothbard

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Originally Posted by Skinny. A liberal is just a libertarian who hasn't studied economics.

If the majority want it, do you really think the government can stop it? Isn't the whole premise of our government based on majority rule? Whether you like it or not, the majority does rule this country, for good or for bad.

If the government got to the point that a rebellion was needed, to you believe they would honor that provision?

And when has the government not perverted a power given to it? Within a short amount of time, this bill will be used against the communists, the libertarians, the constitutionalists, and any other minor political persuasion that goes against the government.

I love my country, but my government scares the hell out of me. I'll be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed if I'll give any more power than is absolutely nessissary.

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Well, if you believe that any laws will be adhered to in such a scenario, the Posse Comitatus Act would prevent them from using the military against the US citizens. Right?

The purpose of the government is to protect the liberty of the minority from the majority. If you are just going to argue that the majority can run over all of this than you have accepted defeat.

No, they wouldn't, but they would also just pass the act if they hadn't.

I think that this would not happen as fast as it would if you used the bill. Keep in mind that it has been around since WWII and the government hasn't been abusing it.

I can say the same thing, but I believe that a necessary power is to prevent internal subversion.

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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.

--Murray Rothbard

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Originally Posted by Skinny. A liberal is just a libertarian who hasn't studied economics.

And you think liberals follow the law? What about the Constitution? Have liberals ever followed the Constitution?

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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.

--Murray Rothbard

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Originally Posted by Skinny. A liberal is just a libertarian who hasn't studied economics.

Well no, that is why I am questioning why you think the Smith Act will be adhered to.......

1)Smith Act knocks the Marxist base out of the Democratic Party because they want the proletariat to rise up and overthrow the government.
2)Conservatives firmly take the government.
3)Conservatives firmly adhere to small government, or get voted out.

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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.

--Murray Rothbard

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Originally Posted by Skinny. A liberal is just a libertarian who hasn't studied economics.

It's too late for that.



One can only dream!


We don't even have a Conservative Presidential candidate!!!

Too true, maybe we should petition Bush to take out the Smith Act completely before it's really too late.

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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.

--Murray Rothbard

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Originally Posted by Skinny. A liberal is just a libertarian who hasn't studied economics.

I am a liberal, and have my gun license! I don't currently own a gun, but that is because I have no money. When I do, I will most likely own one. So this will be one liberal who you won't take to easily. It probably won't be necessary though, instead we can just hang out, and you can tell some of your famous black jokes!!


Also to fox:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

These words should be familiar. So you talk about liberals not following the constitution, but you are clearly trashing the ideas this country was founded upon!

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