This was posted today on the Washington Post's online magazine, Slate Magazine. It's an excerpt from an interview with nobody's favorite Democrat, Joe Lieberman.

From CNN:

KYRA PHILLIPS, CNN: I just returned from Baghdad, and what was interesting to me, I sat down with dozens of Iraqi soldiers and dozens of students at Baghdad University, and Senator, they said to me, "We don't want to see a Republican president." Matter of fact, out of every single one that I talked to, one person said they supported John McCain. They said, "We're living a Republican war. Look at this. It's a disaster! We want to see a Democrat for president." What does John McCain say to the future of Iraq, when we're talking about Iraqi soldiers and Baghdad University students? They're the ones living this.

JOE LIEBERMAN: Well, I'm real surprised to hear that, um, because...

PHILLIPS: I was too!

[Crosstalk]

PHILLIPS: It was very interesting. They were very blunt, and very straightforward.

LIEBERMAN: Yeah, I mean, not that I expect the Iraqis to vote in our election, but I will tell you that in all the visits I've made there -- and it's eight -- the Iraqi people on the street, the Iraqi military, the Iraqi government that I've talked to, don't want us to just pick up and leave, which is what Sen. Obama, Sen. Clinton have been advocating.

As a point of clarification, neither candidate, Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama, has said they would "just pick up and leave". That's a distortion, an intentional distortion to claim otherwise.

Having said that, there is a possibility, probably a likelihood, that the Iraqis interviewed have heard the statement made by John McCain, advocating remaining in Iraq for 100+ as permanent occupiers. It's understandable that the Iraqi people would not embrace that concept. In fact, can you name one single nation on the planet that would enjoy having the United States occupy their country for 100+ years?

Neither can I.

A few observations:

1. Its CNN
2. University students...
3. "A few university students" obviously represent all of Iraq
4. Big blow to the Republican party? You mean America....This is an American effort...Our troops don't want to lose this mission.

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Its CNN and obviously as with all other stories from that network, anti-war propaganda.

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This is just great! you start out by saying that Lieberman distorted Obama and Hillary's position on Iraq, then you almost immediately distort McCain's position on Iraq. That is just priceless!


McCain said we could likely have a presence there. Are we currently occupying Japan, Germany, and/or Bosnia?

We have a presence in each!
If you want others to stop the distortion, stop yours!

Did we allow a civil war to errupt Japan, Germany or Bosnia? Did we allow ethnic cleansing to errupt in Japan, Germany or Bosnia?

No.

Did McCain say it was ok with him if we were still in Iraq for 100+ years?

Yes. That hardly rises to level of "distortion".

Also, I noticed you failed to address any of the specific absurd claims John McCain has made repeatedly about Iraq. The premise of the post was the point that someone that's rarely made any accurate projections, is probably not too likely to have an epiphony and suddenly become wise.

One ad shows selected portions of McCain's comments that a 100-year U.S. presence in Iraq would be "fine with me." The ad uses dramatic images of war and violence, and omits any mention that McCain was speaking of a peaceful presence like that in Japan or Korea.

The clear implication is that if McCain is elected, we can expect to be battling in Iraq for many decades to come. But the admakers cut off the rest of McCain's response, which provides some badly needed context:

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I believe we are occupying Okinawa. It's much more than a 'presence'. Same with Guam, which is a US territory. But US military 'presence' on Guam is omnipresent - everywhere you turn. And that's because both examples are relatively small islands, which exacerbates the problem.

I dont get it? we lost Lieberman's endorsement? Do you really believe that garbage coming out of Joe's mouth?

It don't matter though, I'm sure the republicans have a secret plan to take over the world in a military coupe if the democrats win the election by some kind of accident.

Soon, everyone will be forced to drive an American made SUV and pay lower taxes. Obama will be forced to say the pledge of allegiance, wear a flag pin and salute the flag. Hillary will be forced to use a stair master. Illegal immigrants will all be deported and a fence built along the Mexican border. Oh, and we will kill every stupid terrorist who is willing to give his life for 72 virgins in paradise.

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We are in Okinawa at the pleasure of the Japanese Government. I lived there for 3 years, by the way. I've also been to Guam, which is US territory. So yes, we are occupying our own territory.

I on the other hand am in occupied San Francisco Bay Area, and am anxiously awaiting liberation by the American military forces.

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